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I did a calculation. It is still way cheaper to buy in SG then shipped to KL even include the 25% tax! What are Malaysia Kawai agents thinking?


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Wow, hauled up 24 storeys? Why didn't use the lift? My piano was sent to my 13th floor using the lift so it is quite an easy job.

Jay, you mean I have to pay 25% of tax? I heard that we could shipped it back as used furniture, not musical intrument then could bypass the tax. I heard a lot of Japanese grands are imported in this way.
When there a "will", there's a way.....
Just say it's a wardrobe... or a computer table
Or go to the showroom every week to play, then after a few months, the sales guys will give you a special price, really. thumb

Jay, maybe you can try to negotiate for a best price as the price displayed are usually Retail price. smile


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Lift was too small in my flat for the piano to fit in. So, there really wasn't any choice. Anyway, I had already factored in the cost of transport ($140 per floor) into the final price, so it wasn't an issue. Its better to pay a little more to get really good movers to do it, especially in a hazardous move like this one! Better not be penny wise, but pound foolish!
Huh ??? Would it be cheaper to hire a TOWER CRANE ??? laugh

I can't imagine the muscle guys have to twist and turn 24 story up !!! really solid man..
The amazing thing is if they can deliver without a single scratch!!

Wizkit, post some picture of your sauter and scenic view leh....


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Crane would have cost me at least $5K, last I heard...

Anyway, here're the photos of the Mother of all Deliveries...
http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/1/13815.html


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Mama-mia!!

ok ok, yeah, maybe helium balloons should lighten the load a bit .. i'll try the DHL balloon next time..


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Jay, you mean I have to pay 25% of tax? I heard that we could shipped it back as used furniture, not musical intrument then could bypass the tax. I heard a lot of Japanese grands are imported in this way.
Yes... 25% new or used. Oops.. sorry that is for upright piano. For grand I think is only 10% sales tax, no duty.

Shipping as used furnite.... eek .... that I'm not sure. When I import my furniture from Australia many years ago, it is clearly stated in the B/L it's content.

I am suprise, if is a lot of Japanese grands been imported this way, I guess the Malaysia Customs must be sleeping all the time. thumb

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I did a calculation. It is still way cheaper to buy in SG then shipped to KL even include the 25% tax! What are Malaysia Kawai agents thinking?
laugh jarjar, Kawai is represented by the same agent in Singapore.

Oh ya, jarjar tell them there is not teacher or referral involved. Maybe, you can get another 10-15% off. f

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hehehe jarjar, you can buy K8.... then
Sell it to xxx piano shop for $800
Then he sell you for $1000, with official reciept!! So you pay Malaysia tax, but less lor... good idea? hehehe legal ???

But if you decide to buy from robert malaysia, leave yout toyota camry at home, borrow a kancil and park infront of the showroom... that should add another 5% off bargain power.....


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Jay, actually I'm looking for a grand. I wonder how much is Kawai GE30 selling in Sg. It is RM55k here in Chamber music. I've checked out a few used Kawai 6' grand like RX3, GS-30, CA-40. About 20+ years old pianos selling at RM33-35k and the RX3 made in 1997 selling at RM48k.
Snoopycar, unfortunately I don't own a toyota camry ya smile . hehe.


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Ar... RM 55K for GE 30 (5'5"?). Isn't GE entry level models of Kawai. I prefer the RX or Shigeru or the Yammie Big C or S for Japanese pianos. On the other hand, you can get a Petrof V for RM 57K (5'3"?)(USD 15K) or Petrof IV (5'8"?)for RM 59K (USD 16K). IMO, after some tweaking to these pianos they're capable of having wonderful tone and loads of sustaining power. whome

AND, used for RM33-35K, wow that is alot of money for a 20+ years old. Furthermore, I thought these pianos are declared as used furniture. They pay no tax. laugh hee hee... It shouldn't be selling at that price....

btw, jarjar what happen to your used yamaha u1 that you just bought?

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maybe kenna "entice" by the beautiful sound of a grand..... smile


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Crane would have cost me at least $5K, last I heard...

Anyway, here're the photos of the Mother of all Deliveries...
http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/1/13815.html
Wizkit: I saw a de-humidifier in your room. Where did you get it from? I saw 2 types at mustafa last friday midnight shopping... ~$700. need external air intake and hot air outlet, right?
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No need for external intake or hot air outlet, for mine at least. Just a normal box set up in a room. Mine was donated for free, so I got lucky smile


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oohh... the ones i saw was actually air-con with dehumidify function.. thanks


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Wizkit: i saw a old 2nd hand sauter upright for sale in the yahoo auction. Went to see... sianzz, 1 strings broken, all very worn out, thought i could get a good deal, gave up. The beauty is the 4 legged foot.... easy to vacuum the floor, hehehe


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Hi Jay, I didn't buy the Yamaha U1, Erwandy is the one who bought the Yamaha U1. My piano is a Challen. Petrof is nice but I think it needs a lot of maintenance and voicing to get the best tone out of it. My piano teacher used to have a Petrof upright, she broke a string of it infront of me. Hehe.


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The GE30 (5'5") is not really an entry level. It has got the Millenium III action and duplex scales. I tried the one at Chambers Music and like the tone and touch very much.


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jarjar, is the Challen made in malaysian company who also makes the C. Steinbach piano? How's the sound" good?

wow! GE30, gotta go down to roberts this weekend to "check it out"....


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snoopycar,
Yup, the Challen is made in Malaysia. Their website is http://www.viennamusic.com.my/. The tone is ok, not much dynamic and I don't like the action. Well, with that kind of price, nothing much to expect from it.
Yeah, could you please help me to check out the price of the GE30 in Sg?


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Snoopycar: There's a nice 2nd hand Sauter upright in excellent condition at Raffles Piano. Well worth a visit. If I had space and money, I would take it as my second piano!


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