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Sweetkeys,
Congrats on the new piano! I know some of the people at Hailun, and also have played the pianos myself. You made a great decision!!

I hope you have many years of enjoyment!

Thank you everyone for your support! I am looking forward to getting my baby tuned so I can really test it out!

Ok I don't get it! Was it in tune at the show-room or not? or Didn't you test it out at the store? You probably should've tested before buying it.

Just kidding! Don't mind me. If you are not a phony enjoy your piano

Regarding the pricing of your new Hailun, the retail price they sell the H1 in China for is $3,202.45 according to today's currency conversion rate. You can see it at the link below.

http://www.hailunpiano.com/class.asp?lx=small&anid=32&nid=264

This is also their new line. So you got the latest and greatest from Hailun. And yes, I'm jealous. As I've been trying to figure out how to get one here in Thailand. Looks like I will have to import it myself. Which I am working on at the moment. How about sending in some photos of it? I'd like to see! Thanks.

Enjoy!

Stephen

Call me crazy, but last I checked, moving a piano more than 70 miles in the cold with other stops to deliver other pianos might just have an effect on the tuning.

Probably not if it is wrapped well. It just as likely not going to be tuned yet anyway.

Hi Sweetkeys,

Congratulations on your new piano! I second the motion about posting pictures!

On another note, you’ve gotten a good taste of what the PW forums can be like. PW is educational, entertaining and fun, and it is a real asset to the piano buying (and playing ) public; however, it can get a little contentious at times .

The piano business must be a really intensely competitive business to make some in the business so rude and abrasive unless you buy a piano from them. Oh yea, I forgot that some of them really don’t care if you love them or not; they have someone else to do that.

Enjoy you new Hailun!

Best regards,

Rickster

The "Piano Book" (best investment so far in my quest to spend lots of $ on a new piano), has the Hailun in group 4C... Which as already mentioned is not very high on the pole.

Interesting reading for a piano owner / adult beginner player / future NEW piano owner. Almost like... there's more to just owning a piano or wanting to for the pure personal enjoyment. I see "status symbols" about in the shape of pianos, I sense "class status" and the like.

Here's my spin. I'm 51 year old, will spend up to $10K on a new vertical (no room for a grand) on ANY model or make that appeals to MY eyes, MY ears and My fingertips.

Dave

from Dave E
Well I was the one who made the reference to Hailun sitting low on the totem pole, but I was speaking of low in a good sense, low in hyping up phony German heritage through an acquired stencil name and marketing sleight of hand. I think if you were to play a Hailun, you might actually disagree with Fine's very low rating, same would be true of a Steigerman premium which is a member of the Hailun family as well.

When you mention up to 10k and not based on status or class, I think you might want to try a Seiler 122. The list price is far over your 10k figure, but I think on the West Coast you could easily buy one for under it. Seiler verticals have a neutral tone and a very responsive action.

I had no idea that Hailun was the bottom of the barrel. I had always thought that since [Hailun is] a brother brand of Steigerman, that it was rated higher. [edited]

It would seem that although the Hailun may sound OK, obviously Larry Fine has determined that there are some serious issues that make it a low quality instrument.

You don't have to go that high.

There's really excellent uprights in the 6-8 k range out there.

We sell them all the time.

So do others....

Norbert

Wiz,

You need to read the Fine text as well as the ratings. The Hailun family of pianos has no connection to DongBei. They are made by Chen Hailun. You're right in associating them with the Steigerman Premiums. Those Steigermans are built by Hailun on a contract basis.

Probably the easiest explanation of Fine's rating is that information was sketchy. Hailun has only begun to put together a dealer network in the past year or so. Until then their pianos were only seen in the US under the Steigerman name and for a very brief time as Wendl&Lung in the Chicago area.

If your travels take you near a Hailun dealer, you really ought to try one, or two, or three. You may like them, maybe not. But at least you will have your own opinion. http://www.hailunusa.com/main.shtml

Dave,

Have you visited the Fandrichs?

No pictures yet. My camera is in another state (oops!) But the more I play it, the more I love it! This is a piano that you truly should reserve placing any judgement upon until you play it. It is a great piano for the buck!

No pictures yet? :rolleyes:

Just run to one of your customer's home (if you had sold one yet) ask them to let you take a picture.

No Ron, but I talked to the Mrs. last week. She put me on to a good mover to get the giant Shaff Bro from the garage to the upstairs. I spect I'll be talking to them about this piano when I get a new one later in the year.

Hmm.. I am starting to lean M&B's way.

Call me gullible if you will, but I think Sweetkeys is legit. Not having a digital picture of his/her new piano readily available does not incriminate Sweetkeys.

Best regards,

Rickster

The thing is that the opinion of the brand shouldn't change whatever you think the motives of the person asking the opinion might be. Personally, I don't think that's the case with M&B. I think his dislike of pianos from China is authentic.

Mik,

Do you remember the poster who said she went out and bought a Brodmann grand based on your helpful advice. That was the thread where Michael B went ballistic on the Brodmann promotional lit. FTP and I were offering a sideshow of mildly sarcastic remarks. Well, that buyer never supplied pix, and worse yet she claimed your advice sealed her deal. Now I don't know about that one!

Personally, I think PW should have a member panel to investigate new piano placements in members' homes. The Wiz would obviously be on the panel to check for counterfeits. The panel might even swing by that infamous warehouse to see what the Wiz actually has stashed there.