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#778160 - 01/13/05 02:04 PM Coffee Room Post  
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Looks like older brother got all the brains in the family. Sheez.

I don't approve of the cigarette, either.

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LONDON Jan 13, 2005 — Jewish groups and lawmakers criticized Prince Harry on Thursday for wearing a Nazi uniform to a costume party, with one group urging him to visit the Auschwitz death camp, despite an apology from the grandson of Queen Elizabeth II.

The 20-year-old prince apologized Wednesday in a statement after a British newspaper printed a picture of him wearing the uniform with a swastika armband while clutching a cigarette and a drink at a party on Saturday.

"I think a lot of people will be disappointed to see that photograph and it will cause a lot of offense," said Michael Howard, leader of Britain's main opposition Conservative Party.

"I think it might be appropriate for him to tell us himself just how contrite he now is," added Howard, who is Jewish.

The Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles expressed outrage and urged Prince Harry to travel to Poland later this month to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the liberation of the Auschwitz death camp.

"There he will see the results of the hated symbol he so foolishly and brazenly chose to wear," said Rabbi Marvin Hier, dean and founder of the center.

Prime Minister Tony Blair's office was reluctant to get involved. "Clearly an error was made," Blair's official spokesman said. "That has been recognized by Harry, and I think it is better that this matter continues to be dealt with by (Buckingham) Palace."

Jewish groups in Britain were more moderate in their criticism.

"The fact that the palace has issued an apology indicates that this was a mistake by the prince," said Rabbi Jonathan Romain, a spokesman for the Reform Synagogues of Great Britain. "But having being given, the apology should now be accepted."

A spokesman for the Board of Deputies of British Jews said the costume "was clearly in bad taste, especially in the run-up to Holocaust Memorial Day" on Jan. 27. But he added: "The board is pleased that he's apologized for the incident."

The queen will commemorate the Holocaust and 60th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz by inviting survivors of the Nazi death camps and British World War II veterans who liberated them to a reception at St. James' Palace.

The picture of Prince Harry, the second son of Prince Charles and Princess Diana, appeared in The Sun newspaper.

In the statement, Harry said he was "very sorry if I caused any offense or embarrassment to anyone."

"It was a poor choice of costume and I apologize," he added.


Harry, who plans to enroll this year at a military college, has long been known as the wilder of Charles and Diana's two handsome sons, in contrast to his university-student brother Prince William, 22.

Harry, third in line to the throne, has been photographed drinking in London's trendiest nightclubs and three years ago was sent by his father to observe a drug rehabilitation center after being caught smoking marijuana. In October, he scuffled with a paparazzi photographer outside a London nightclub.

A former Buckingham Palace spokesman said he believed Prince Charles was too easy on his sons.

"I'm sorry, the Prince of Wales, he's a humanitarian and he does some terrific work, but I don't think he has … the right discipline over his children, particularly Prince Harry," Dickie Arbiter told Sky News TV.

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#778161 - 01/13/05 02:06 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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Oh, I thought......

never mind......


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#778162 - 01/13/05 02:08 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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You expect too much, Larry.


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#778163 - 01/13/05 02:09 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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Actually, Larry, I was rather hoping *you'd* take the hint. smile

#778164 - 01/13/05 02:11 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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And I don't expect anything else from you, Cindy.


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#778165 - 01/13/05 02:13 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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And I don't expect anything else from you, Cindy.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

#778166 - 01/13/05 02:15 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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It is not a very well-known fact that Prince Harry is in fact the first person to appear photographed with his top on in this prestigious newspaper.

I didn't think that The Sun kept up to date with anything other than Jordan. :rolleyes:


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#778167 - 01/13/05 02:17 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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He would be better off to have gone topless! wink

#778168 - 01/13/05 02:21 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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I admit Harry's over the edge and in bad form with the swastika- there are plenty of other costumes he could have worn. But then he could be in awe of his late great uncle, the Duke of Windsor (better known as Edward VIII- the King who abdicated so he could marry that divorced tart, Mrs. Wallace Simpson). The Duke and Joe Kennedy Sr. rather liked that scoundrel Hitler.

As for the cigarette, Harry's probably emulating his great grandfather George VI. Great Grandpapa was a chain smoker who actually got on quite well with another chain smoker- FDR.


"The older the fiddle, the sweeter the music"~ Augustus McCrae
#778169 - 01/13/05 02:39 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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HE'S 20 years old...probably showing his friends how he's not controlled by his stuffy old relatives...


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#778170 - 01/13/05 02:43 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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He may be 20 years old, but he makes a very good argument against monarchy.


If you use lines like "a hyena with hiccups", you might be a redneck.
#778171 - 01/13/05 02:46 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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A couple of points...

1. We were all brain-dead at 20. Hopefully, some of us got better with age.

2. You have to admit, Jordan is probably worthy of having film wasted on her.


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#778172 - 01/13/05 02:59 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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Yeah, he showed his friends, all right!

I wasn't brain dead at 20. I think there was a small, faint flicker in one lobe.

You had to look pretty closely to find it, though! wink

Cindy -- thinking Harry and Paris Hilton are definitely a match

#778173 - 01/13/05 03:01 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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Originally posted by QuirtEvans:
He may be 20 years old, but he makes a very good argument against monarchy.
Chances of Harry becoming King are pretty slim. As the article points out, his healthy father and slightly older brother are ahead of him. Besides he's being a wee bit like his uncle Andrew the Duke of York in his youth. Randy Andy as he was known, was second in line after Charles and enjoyed the company of the corn porn actress Koo Stark.

In any case Slick Willy of Arkansas didn't do much for the image of republican government either when he stated, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." We sure got a laugh out of that line.


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#778174 - 01/13/05 03:15 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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Maybe he can become dictator.


Better to light one small candle than to curse the %&#$@#! darkness. :t:
#778175 - 01/13/05 03:20 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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I look at young people and try to be forgiving. I believe MOST OF US were young and dumb at some point in our lives. I know I was.

just my 2 cents,

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Originally posted by Larry:
Oh, I thought......

never mind......
I'll admit the same thing crossed my mind. Oh well, wrong again. frown

#778177 - 01/13/05 03:22 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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Maybe he can become dictator.

He would be the first Henry after Henry VIII. I suppose there's a bit of precedent- but despite Cromwell, it is a stretch .


"The older the fiddle, the sweeter the music"~ Augustus McCrae
#778178 - 01/13/05 03:23 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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I look at young people and try to be forgiving. I believe MOST OF US were young and dumb at some point in our lives. I know I was.

just my 2 cents,
I resemble that remark!


regards,
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#778179 - 01/13/05 03:33 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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What a total idiot.

Has he learned about history? Isn't it obvious that the Nazi emblem is a controversial and extremely negative icon? Why the f*** did he have to choose that? I don't accept his apology because he obviously there is something that he is hiding. Probably he is against Jews. Probably he does want to become a dictator!




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#778180 - 01/13/05 03:35 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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Isn't it obvious that the Nazi emblem is a controversial and extremely negative icon? Why the f*** did he have to choose that?
You might want to consider reading this article (from a reputable newspaper) before you start splurging asterisks all over my page.


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#778181 - 01/13/05 03:37 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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I don't accept his apology because he obviously there is something that he is hiding. Probably he is against Jews. Probably he does want to become a dictator!
Yes, almost certainly. Almost as certain as the fact that 5-year old girls who dress up as witches at Hallowe'en come from Arthur Miller's imagination.


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#778182 - 01/13/05 03:40 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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I understand how he feels.

I'm something of a prince of a guy myself and when I make an occasional mistake it tends to gets all blown up all out of proportion, too.

#778183 - 01/13/05 03:44 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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Nay, Tom. You are le Dauphin.


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#778184 - 01/13/05 03:48 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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Sarah---you are so sweet. smile

#778185 - 01/13/05 03:48 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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The first thing I thought about when I saw this story was:

"Will the Dancing Hitlers wait in the wing-we are only seeing singing Hitlers."

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#778186 - 01/13/05 03:50 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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Originally posted by Tom--K:
I understand how he feels.

I'm something of a prince of a guy myself and when I make an occasional mistake it tends to gets all blown up all out of proportion, too.
Quite right Tom. I'm expecting a thread any day now questioning the brown tinted shirt in your avatar. As it does not expose the sleeve there is no telling what, if any type of arm band, you may be concealing.

I agree with Sarah, you are the Tsarevich.


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#778187 - 01/13/05 03:50 PM Re: Coffee Room Post  
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What a lot of fuss about nothing! This is just part of a new fashion craze which has been sweeping our septic isle. Why, only a few days ago Harry and William were wearing the red cross... But, of course, the sartorially-challenged media failed to pick up on it.

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Indeed, at the weekend, I myself could have been seen wandering through the Lake District sporting a trilby with a rather fetching Satanic pentagram. I was pleased to find several other ramblers gesticulating towards me during the course of the day.


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Whoa, cool down Goog! As sarah's link pointed out, the symbol's been around way longer than the Nazis.

<-- Buddhism in ancestry.

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Originally posted by Tom--K:
I understand how he feels.

I'm something of a prince of a guy myself and when I make an occasional mistake it tends to gets all blown up all out of proportion, too.
And all this time I thought it was a Napoleon complex you had.

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