Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.5 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
What's Hot!!
Hurricane Irma & Our Piano Friends!
--------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
(ad)
Virtual Sheet Music
Download Sheet Music Instantly
Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads
Sheet Music...
(125ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Piano Buyer Guide
Piano Buyer Spring 2017
(ad)
4th Finger Enigma Resolved!
Schumann's 4th Finger Enigma Resolved!
Who's Online Now
110 registered members (anotherscott, Andy001, ando, ArtlessArt, ajames, alfredo capurso, 29 invisible), 1,945 guests, and 2 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords & Scales
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5
#775782 - 01/09/04 06:07 PM Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 271
zorro Offline
Full Member
zorro  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 271
Mesa, AZ
PLEASE keep in mind that:
1) I'm (relatively) young.
2) I'm not taught religiously AT ALL. Meaning, when it comes to that matter, I AM IGNORANT.
3) I don't want to start a war.

Assuming God exists by that name,

1) Why did he let that terrible earth-quake happen on Christmas day?

2) Assuming that an honest, kind and pure person that happens to be a complete atheist dies, he/she should go to Heaven, right? Wrong. God only lets in His followers. Isn't that Degrading to Him by bringing Him down to the low level of human thinking? Being [Himself], he should not care who one believes in. Denying the right to heaven to a non-believer would be personal vengeance, the same thing we frown upon.

Zorro


"I love Beethoven, especially the poems."
Ringo Starr
Piano & Music Accessories
#775783 - 01/09/04 06:22 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 4,271
shantinik Offline
4000 Post Club Member
shantinik  Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 4,271
Olympia, WA
To my way of thinking (there are plenty of others, and others are plenty entitled to them), religions and belief systems are created by humans for humans. They may be guided by principles that are placed in the human mind or in the world, but their working out both in systems of belief and in institutions is a human creation.

Sometimes these systems and institutions help us get closer to God, or so we would like to believe. And sometimes they don't, which is why even the most fundamentalist of belief systems is always changing. (That's simply a fact of history, not a statement of what should or should not be the case.)

The most interesting part of the phrase "believe in God" is the middle word. What does "in" mean? Do you believe "in" your big toe? "in" mathematics? "in" DNA? "in" the validity of the latest issue of TV Guide?

The earthquake? God is often said to be "Omnipotent, Omniscient, and All-caring". It it clear to me (from everything from earthquakes to the murder of innocents) that S/He can, at any one time, be only two out of three.

You can take your pick as to which. That's what theology is made on.
cool

#775784 - 01/09/04 06:28 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 4,111
CrashTest Offline
4000 Post Club Member
CrashTest  Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 4,111
I am young as well, and just finished up in a Catholic high school last year. (4 years with religion courses(!), although I do not confess to being anywhere near an expert on such matters, I just have a small amount of information)

Although I am still thinking heavily on this matter, my current conclusion is that there is a God, but one far, far, different than any notion that we may have of him. Right now I do not believe in much of what is in the bible.

It is kind of absurd for man to automatically think that god is "all good" and merciful. We have no evidence of this, and if one were to look at the reality of our world instead of the bible, we would see things more correctly.

Life had to start somewhere. The universe had to start somewhere. Both came from nothing, the universe or god included. Judging by how humans, through our own perspective, are advanced creatures, I have to believe that there may be some larger power to account for this, as I am not sure how the universe would come together so perfectly, but I see a chance that there is no god and everything is indeed by randomness. (Although I incline towards the former at the present.)

Having said this, I think that the human notion of god is made up by humans, and I would not be suprised if most religious are obviously wrong and only gained the influence they have because of power/political ambition in the past and not because of some outside power.

#775785 - 01/09/04 06:35 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
Tom--K Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Tom--K  Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
Quote
1) Why did he let that terrible earth-quake happen on Christmas day?

2) Assuming that an honest, kind and pure person that happens to be a complete atheist dies, he/she should go to Heaven, right? Wrong. God only lets in His followers. Isn't that Degrading to Him by bringing Him down to the low level of human thinking? Being [Himself], he should not care who one believes in. Denying the right to heaven to a non-believer would be personal vengeance, the same thing we frown upon.
Dear Zorro,

1. God doesn't "let" anything happen here. It's our world.

2. It's not a matter of vengeance, it's a matter of character. It's a matter of who you are, not so much in relationship to "heaven" but a interrelationship to what all of creation really entails. To deny the spiritual (i.e. atheism,) is to deny who we really are. And if we can't recognize ourselves and we can't recognize God, how can we expect God to recognize us. Heaven is not a place. It is being in the presence of God.

So, there's a misconception here. Christians don't go to heaven when they die. They are in heaven as they walk this earth and they continue to be in heaven after they die. The physical state changes--the spiritual never does. That's what's meant by eternal.

#775786 - 01/09/04 06:38 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 4,111
CrashTest Offline
4000 Post Club Member
CrashTest  Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 4,111
Tom, could you elaborate a bit on what you think our spiritualism actually is? Some invisible force that contains everything we experience?

#775787 - 01/09/04 06:52 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
Tom--K Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Tom--K  Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
Quote
Tom, could you elaborate a bit on what you think our spiritualism actually is? Some invisible force that contains everything we experience?
Dear CrashTest,

I was fudging, and you caught me at it. Spiritualism is just God and our relation to him and nothing else. If he does exist he would demand all our attention--after all he created us and all this other stuff. If he doesn't--the heck with it.

Seems to me there's no middle ground. Spiriualism is our relationship to God. No God, than all is crap.

#775788 - 01/09/04 06:57 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,066
Renauda Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Renauda  Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,066
Quote
Originally posted by shantinik:

The most interesting part of the phrase "believe in God" is the middle word. What does "in" mean? Do you believe "in" your big toe? "in" mathematics? "in" DNA? "in" the validity of the latest issue of TV Guide?
I don't believe in my big toe but I do know God. If we would know more and believe less then this would be a much kinder, gentler world in which to live.


"The older the fiddle, the sweeter the music"~ Augustus McCrae
#775789 - 01/09/04 07:07 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
Tom--K Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Tom--K  Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
Quote
If we would know more and believe less then this would be a much kinder, gentler world in which to live.
In case anyone ever wanted to see WRONG, this is exactly, exactly, what WRONG looks like.

#775790 - 01/09/04 07:17 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,066
Renauda Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Renauda  Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,066
Happy to oblige you. Whether right or wrong I don't really care. I take it you don't like Zen either.


"The older the fiddle, the sweeter the music"~ Augustus McCrae
#775791 - 01/09/04 07:20 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 4,111
CrashTest Offline
4000 Post Club Member
CrashTest  Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 4,111
Quote
Originally posted by Renauda:
Quote
Originally posted by shantinik:
[b]
The most interesting part of the phrase "believe in God" is the middle word. What does "in" mean? Do you believe "in" your big toe? "in" mathematics? "in" DNA? "in" the validity of the latest issue of TV Guide?
I don't believe in my big toe but I do know God. If we would know more and believe less then this would be a much kinder, gentler world in which to live. [/b]
Not to repeat myself here, but could you elaborate on how it is you know God? One could establish a relationship with an idea of God, but that is obviously a very one-sided relationship. (I believe so anyway, and although we all would like to have a god who responds and answers prayers, I am afraid I cannot fathom how something like that can be done. I doubt anyone else in a sane state of mind can claim such intervention without going into the idea of faith, which returns the argument to the beginning again.)

#775792 - 01/09/04 07:36 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,066
Renauda Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Renauda  Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,066
Tom~*K alias Elion~*K says I am WRONG so I won't write anything more on this. Sorry Crash. After all I wouldn't want to be branded a heretic. You might howvere read some good literature like Tolstoy, Dostoevskii and Hesse to point you in a direction that will help answer at least a part of your question.


"The older the fiddle, the sweeter the music"~ Augustus McCrae
#775793 - 01/09/04 07:41 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 4,111
CrashTest Offline
4000 Post Club Member
CrashTest  Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 4,111
Quote
Originally posted by Renauda:
Tom~*K alias Elion~*K says I am WRONG so I won't write anything more on this. Sorry Crash. After all I wouldn't want to be branded a heretic. You might howvere read some good literature like Tolstoy, Dostoevskii and Hesse to point you in a direction that will help answer at least a part of your question.
Thanks, I have read some Tolstoy and will take a look at the works of the other two.

#775794 - 01/09/04 07:46 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
Tom--K Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Tom--K  Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
Quote
Posted by Renauda: Tom~*K alias Elion~*K says I am WRONG so I won't write anything more on this. Sorry Crash. After all I wouldn't want to be branded a heretic. You might howvere read some good literature like Tolstoy, Dostoevskii and Hesse to point you in a direction that will help answer at least a part of your question.
Excellent point. And the writers Renauda pointed to will point you to the place I was referring to all along: the Bible.

There is something there.

#775795 - 01/09/04 07:56 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,066
Renauda Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Renauda  Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,066
Yes upon rare occasions there are brief moments of lucidity in my thinking.


"The older the fiddle, the sweeter the music"~ Augustus McCrae
#775796 - 01/09/04 08:09 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
Tom--K Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Tom--K  Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
Quote
I am WRONG so I won't write anything more on this.
Wrong, because then you posted:

Quote
Yes upon rare occasions there are brief moments of lucidity in my thinking
:rolleyes:

#775797 - 01/09/04 08:24 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,066
Renauda Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Renauda  Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,066
So I lied. After your bouquet I couldn't resist. Thank you I am now finished with this thread unless of course someone asks me to return. :p


"The older the fiddle, the sweeter the music"~ Augustus McCrae
#775798 - 01/09/04 08:28 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
Tom--K Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Tom--K  Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
Quote
So I lied. After your bouquet I couldn't resist. Thank you I am now finished with this thread unless of course someone asks me to return.
Please.

Return.

Please.

#775799 - 01/09/04 08:32 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 2,384
johnmoonlight Offline
2000 Post Club Member
johnmoonlight  Offline
2000 Post Club Member

Joined: May 2002
Posts: 2,384
Lancaster, pa
Quote
Originally posted by Renauda:
So I lied. After your bouquet I couldn't resist. Thank you I am now finished with this thread unless of course someone asks me to return. :p
Renauda, I am sincerely interested in what you have said, but could you please elaborate?(on the original post, that is)
I truly believe that there are NO atheists in the foxholes; so when I come upon an atheist, I reckon' they've never been in a foxhole. (?)


While one who sings with his tongue on fire
Gargles in the rat race choir
Bent out of shape from society's pliers
Cares not to come up any higher
But rather get you down in the hole
That he's in.
#775800 - 01/09/04 09:02 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 271
zorro Offline
Full Member
zorro  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 271
Mesa, AZ
I ask you to return too.
And, also I will second John m's post by asking you to say what's on you mind.(you have my attention)


"I love Beethoven, especially the poems."
Ringo Starr
#775801 - 01/09/04 09:31 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
Tom--K Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Tom--K  Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
Since Renauda's not here momentarily, let me postulate his presence:

"Ah yes! the greats! The Russian greats...what do they mean, what do they mean?" "Could they say more with less words or less with more words--that we shall never know!"

"What truths do they tell? "Can they speak?" Well, no they are dead, how could they speak?" "Oh, well maybe they could speak through their works." "But, what is work" "Shall we interpet it by the Soviet model or the capitalist model..." Etc.

#775802 - 01/09/04 09:32 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
Tom--K Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Tom--K  Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
Since Renauda's not here momentarily, let me postulate his presence:

"Ah yes! the greats! The Russian greats...what do they mean, what do they mean?" "Could they say more with less words or less with more words--that we shall never know!"

"What truths do they tell? "Can they speak?" Well, no they are dead, how could they speak?" "Oh, well maybe they could speak through their works." "But, what is work" "Shall we interpet it by the Soviet model or the capitalist model..." Etc.

Double post...but it bears repeating!

#775803 - 01/09/04 09:39 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,862
apple* Offline
apple*  Offline


Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,862
Kansas
quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If we would know more and believe less then this would be a much kinder, gentler world in which to live.


Renauda, I understand what you said and agree completely. (I could explain it to Tomk (and will if you don't later) but I have a date.


accompanist/organist.. a non-MTNA teacher to a few

love and peace, Õun (apple in Estonian)
#775804 - 01/09/04 10:14 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
Tom--K Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Tom--K  Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
Quote
Posted by apple: Renauda, I understand what you said and agree completely.
He's a hose head. It's something more than understanding. Lot's of people understand economics and can't make a nickle. Lot's of people understand religion and can't say a prayer. Lot's of people understand love and walk around with huge holes in their hearts.

Understanding only gets you so far in this world. Understanding alone is the real meaning of doom.

#775805 - 01/09/04 10:43 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 701
jkeene Offline
500 Post Club Member
jkeene  Offline
500 Post Club Member

Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 701
Central Florida
Quote
Originally posted by Tom-*K:

Understanding only gets you so far in this world. Understanding alone is the real meaning of doom.
jkeene paraphrasing Tom-*K

Science without wisdom gives all the Frankensteins of men less significance than one of God's mosquitoes.
---
jkeene paraphrasing Tom-*K paraphrasing Renauda

Great Russians' essence is not their essence, our ignorance has not died yet.
---
jkeene not paraphrasing anyone

Knowing a three-sided coin is a belief understood.

#775806 - 01/09/04 10:48 PM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,066
Renauda Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Renauda  Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,066
Quote
Originally posted by Tom-*K:
[QUOTE]He's a hose head. It's something more than understanding.
Indeed sir, the matter which was being discussed is beyond mortal comprehension. Through faith I can know (as opposed to believe) God is but I cannot comprehend God. Nothing heretical about that- in fact I seem to recall it being very much in line with Orthodox and Catholic theology.

Also there was no need to refer to me a hose head. Such epithets directed towards others not only reflect very badly on your character and outward behavior but also can be regarded as veiled prejudice. Having said that, kindly permit Apple and others here to carry on what would have been a civil discussion.


"The older the fiddle, the sweeter the music"~ Augustus McCrae
#775807 - 01/10/04 12:01 AM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 11,678
gryphon Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
gryphon  Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 11,678
Okemos, MI
I thought hose-head was a Canadian term of endearment. confused And how come kathy with a k isn't a pony?


"If we lose freedom here, there's no place to escape to."
MSU - the university of Michigan!
Wheels
#775808 - 01/10/04 12:05 AM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 9,217
Larry Offline
9000 Post Club Member
Larry  Offline
9000 Post Club Member

Joined: May 2001
Posts: 9,217
Deep in Cherokee Country
Quote
Originally posted by zorro:
PLEASE keep in mind that:
1) I'm (relatively) young.
2) I'm not taught religiously AT ALL. Meaning, when it comes to that matter, I AM IGNORANT.
3) I don't want to start a war.

Assuming God exists by that name,

1) Why did he let that terrible earth-quake happen on Christmas day?

2) Assuming that an honest, kind and pure person that happens to be a complete atheist dies, he/she should go to Heaven, right? Wrong. God only lets in His followers. Isn't that Degrading to Him by bringing Him down to the low level of human thinking? Being [Himself], he should not care who one believes in. Denying the right to heaven to a non-believer would be personal vengeance, the same thing we frown upon.

Zorro
Zorro, I have given your post a lot of thought before answering. I'm still not sure I'm ready. But I'm going to try. You have asked one of the most important questions you'll ever ask in your life, and it deserves an answer that has been well thought out, and with seriousness.

Everyone, me included, is going to naturally filter their response through their own religious belief system. Nothing wrong with that, except it can get a bit confusing to keep up with, and in such a setting as this it could create more confusion than answers. I want to try to answer you without seeming as though I'm "knocking" anyone else's beliefs in the process.

First of all, there most definitely *is* a God. God *does* love you, me and everyone else. God does *not* cause earthquakes, or any of the other bad things that happen in life. There is a reason God created us, regardless of the method you choose to accept that he used to do the creating. Before you can understand the complex issues you've asked about regarding whether God is reducing Himself to human's level, why He wants you to "believe" in Him only, you must understand what God's plan for mankind is.

The only way to do that is to study, and the best place to start your study is by reading the book of instructions he left us. Yes, we came with an owner's manual.... It's called the Bible.

Find a group of kids your age in your community who are studying the Bible and trying to learn God's plan for man, and how they fit into that. You will find that you are much much more than a mere human. You will find that God is much much more than some callous being up in the clouds causing earthquakes, car wrecks, or letting a little child walk out in front of a car. You will find that instead of God being unfair or cruel, He has a purpose for mankind far above the issues of mortality.

I am far from a perfect man. I don't live my life all the time according to my own beliefs. In other words, I'm a simple human. But I can tell you that I have no doubts that God is real, I have experienced His power, and as well as I am able, being the poor excuse for a Christian that I am sometimes, as humbly as I know how, I will be happy to talk with you offline any time you want, by phone, by email, whatever. I'll help you find information to answer your questions, whatever I can do.

Just keep seeking God. I'll tell you this: you can find him on your own, you don't need us. Just humbly ask Him to reveal himself to you. Talk to him, and ask him to come into your heart and reveal himself to you. If you truly seek to know God with a true and sincere desire to know him, and open your mind and heart to him, he will reveal himself. I don't mean he'll knock on the door and you'll find him standing there. But you'll know it when it happens. Just keep searching and don't give up.

Man.... I hope I did that right. I hope it all made some sense. And I hope you're able to see how very much I want to help you.


Life isn't measured by the breaths you take. Life is measured by the things that left you breathless
#775809 - 01/10/04 12:25 AM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,066
Renauda Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Renauda  Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,066
Quote
Originally posted by gryphon:
I thought hose-head was a Canadian term of endearment. confused And how come kathy with a k isn't a pony?
No, a hose head is an habitually drunken male with little or no education, a foul mouth, crude sense of humour and bad personal hygiene but is nevertheless employed. I think it may be the equivalent to what you might refer to as Trailer Trash.

I have no idea what the second part of your question means.


"The older the fiddle, the sweeter the music"~ Augustus McCrae
#775810 - 01/10/04 12:43 AM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 11,678
gryphon Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
gryphon  Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 11,678
Okemos, MI
See what things you learn here? The McKenzie brothers never explained all that.


"If we lose freedom here, there's no place to escape to."
MSU - the university of Michigan!
Wheels
#775811 - 01/10/04 12:47 AM Re: Sincere questions on God  
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 14
Mark I. Offline
Junior Member
Mark I.  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 14
Chesapeake, VA
Quote
Originally posted by Larry:
Man.... I hope I did that right. I hope it all made some sense. And I hope you're able to see how very much I want to help you.
Larry, I don't think you need to have any worries on that score. Wonderful post, and I agree with you 100%.

-Mark

Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5

Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World)
our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, Digital Piano Dolly, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.


Free Shipping* on Jansen Artist Piano Benches, Cocoweb Piano Lamps, Hidrau Hydraulic Piano Benches
(*free shipping within contiguous U.S. only)
(ad)
Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad)
Pianoteq
PianoTeq 6 Out now
(ad)
Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restorations and sales
ad
Pierce Piano Atlas


New Topics - Multiple Forums
External Pedal For CA97
by Fan Yu. 09/19/17 01:20 PM
Good stencil brands
by PhilipInChina. 09/19/17 11:57 AM
August Forster grands
by Duke of Dunning. 09/19/17 11:43 AM
Where is Kawai james?
by musicman100. 09/19/17 11:39 AM
Tuning in the home – policies to protect yourself
by Brock Tyler. 09/19/17 11:35 AM
Forum Statistics
Forums44
Topics181,936
Posts2,658,722
Members88,868
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
(ad)
Accu-Tuner
Sanderson Accu-Tuner
Check It Out!
There's a lot more to Piano World than just the forums.
Click Here to
Explore The Rest of Piano World!!
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers


 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2017 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0