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#769832 - 06/30/02 02:24 AM Terrorist Attack on July 4th?  
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Many are saying that the 4th of July will be the target date of the next attack on America, either on home land or at over seas interests. US intelligance is saying that the next attack on America could be as bad or worse (is worse even possible?!?!?) than the ones seen on September 11, 2001. Wheather or not it will happen on July 4th, they don't know, but are advising people to be on the most hightend alert they can possibly be on in the coming days before and especially on July 4th. I think that this may just be a big nothing, as it has been before when we are told such things. None the less, I'll be on the look out for strange activity when I'm out and about just as I have been everyday since 9/11. This is what the terrorists want, for us to be frightened like this, but as soon as we stop, they strike again and put it back into us. We need to put an end to this loop before they have a chance to strike again. So, what do you think?


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Many are saying that the 4th of July will be the target date of the next attack on America, either on home land or at over seas interests. US intelligance is saying that the next attack on America could be as bad or worse (is worse even possible?!?!?) than the ones seem on September 11, 2001. Wheather or not it will happen on July 4th, they don't know, but are advising people to be on the most hightend alert they can possibly be on in the coming days before and especially on July 4th. I think that this may just be a big nothing, as it has been before when we are told such things. None the less, I'll be on the look out for strange activity when I'm out and about just as I have been everyday since 9/11. This is what the terrorists want, for us to be frightened like this, but as soon as we stop, they strike again and put it back into us. We need to put an end to this loop before they have a chance to strike again. So, what do you think?
Interesting that this all comes out as the President's popularity drops over 5% in 30 days.

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i share george's perception on that, jgoo, but also you should know that "they" say that seattle is the most likely next target. what are YOUR plans for the fourth?


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#769835 - 06/30/02 11:10 AM Re: Terrorist Attack on July 4th?  
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Drops to 70%. Yeah, I see a definite need for some serious damage control.


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#769836 - 06/30/02 11:13 AM Re: Terrorist Attack on July 4th?  
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george,

If you spin any harder, you're going to screw yourself into the ground! laugh


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Drops to 70%. Yeah, I see a definite need for some serious damage control.
Consider that this is nearly a 20% drop in 4 months. And remember what happened to Bush1. His son does.

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Keep trying George. You may yet do just what Jolly said.

I have to leave this rather lame discussion to wash my car. I have been putting it off since I dislocated my finger.


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Keep trying George. You may yet do just what Jolly said.

I have to leave this rather lame discussion to wash my car. I have been putting it off since I dislocated my finger.
I need to remember that the President's poll numbers are 1) spin and 2) a lame discussion the next time someone on here tells me I am out of touch with the majority of Americans and cites Il Duce's poll numbers as proof of that. wink

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george,

You know that a 70% approval rating is unprecedented for a President in his second year in office. Period. No comparison.

Do you have a problem with facts? wink

Or just the ones you don't like? :p


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You know that a 70% approval rating is unprecedented for a President in his second year in office. Period. No comparison.

Do you have a problem with facts? wink

Or just the ones you don't like? :p
No question it is unprecedented. But I am just watching the facts of the monthly decline, Jolly. Just watching the facts.

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I need to remember that the President's poll numbers are 1) spin and 2) a lame discussion the next time someone on here tells me I am out of touch with the majority of Americans and cites Il Duce's poll numbers as proof of that. wink
I'm sorry, was this a discussion of poll numbers in general? I thought it was about your implication that the Bush Administration was issuing terrorist alerts in order to boost poll numbers. THAT I consider to be lame (as well as spin) but, once again, you twist what I say to mean just whatever you want.


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#769843 - 06/30/02 01:29 PM Re: Terrorist Attack on July 4th?  
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If you spin any harder, you're going to screw yourself into the ground! laugh
No Jolly, he'll never do that. Remember, George spins to the left: "lefty-loosie, righty-tightie." wink

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Then let's shift this, since you all think Il Duce never considers the politics of his actions...

If there is an increased threat on 7/4 as the Administration says, why has the alert level remained yellow? If there really are all of these possible attacks the Administratin knows about and if July 4th celebrations have been targeted as they are saying, should not the alert status be increased to at least the next level?

After all, the colors are meant to let us know how much risk we are facing. Based on the color we have now, they are saying the risk is no greater this coming week than it has been since the procedure was put in place months ago.

So, I will take Il Duce at his word. The color was yellow months ago. It is yellow now. The risk is the same.

So, why all the hype from the Administration?

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I'm sorry George, I really don't understand the question. confused


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I'm sorry George, I really don't understand the question. confused
Actually, there was no real question. More a statement of understanding that the risk on July 4th is no greater than it ever has been because the way the Administration has chosen to alert us has not changed. It is a recognition that the Administration is just talking about it a lot more for some reason and just taking a lot of actions for some reason and just scaring people for soem reason -- undoubtedly for the good of the country.

Knowing these men are not politicians, but statesmen whose only motivation is what is best for this country, I feel very comfortable that there is no game playing here.

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I'm glad you feel that way but perhaps the New York Times could offer you more reassurance.

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I am sorry, but as so many on here have pointed out, the liberal media never tells the truth. The NY Times is always pointed out as one of the bastions of the liberal media. So, whatever you have linked here is really of no relevance because it cannot have any truth in it.

I will just watch what the Administration does and realize they have only the country's best interests at heart, never concerned about their own. The warning levels have not intensified from the yellow we have had for months, but they tell us we are faced with a significant chance for a terrorist attack on July 4th. They have established no fly zones over the weekend for several monuemtns. Seattle has been identified as a major target for the weekend. But the yellow remains.

While it confuses me, I am sure not going to go to the liberal media to explain what the Administration need not explain because Il Duce's Administration would only do what is right and good. To think otherwise is to damage the unity of the country and offer support to the terrorists.

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i share george's perception on that, jgoo, but also you should know that "they" say that seattle is the most likely next target. what are YOUR plans for the fourth?
Yes. Infact, I just heard this on last nights news. It was said that Seattle would be an easy target. City officials here have brought things up an extra step to prevent any such thing but we can't be 100% certain of anything. Our Space Needle has been named a target for a long time now, since pictures of it had been discovered in al-quida caves. My plans for the 4th are still uncertain. If I stay in Seattle, I'm not sure what I'm going to do, but if my dad can get the time off of work, we're going to the my grandmas cabin in Ocean Shores, Washington, where I go every year, but a doctors apointment on the 2nd is conflicting with my plans, and I won't have a ride as everyone goes earlier than that (this is on my moms side of the family) unless my dad can make it and give me a ride. Either way, I'll find something to do. But, back to terrorism, I think that people here in Seattle are on a high alert to catch something in time to stop it, if anything happens at all.


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Come on over to the island Jgoo!
Unless they nuke Seattle, you will be safe here.

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CP: The only problem with that is that I'd be celebrating my nations independance in another nation! I don't really think that anything will happen, but if it does, our city will (hopefully) be prepared enough to handle it. I think that we're on a high enough alert to avert anything but as I said before, we can't be 100% certain of anything.


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#769852 - 06/30/02 04:23 PM Re: Terrorist Attack on July 4th?  
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Yeah doing that would be kinda anti American.

Jgoo do you really think that they can make sure that no-one with a nuclear weapon enters the city?? Can they protect the skies?? I think its really easy to miss a couple terrorist's when there's millions of people out on the streets.
I just prey for the best, but if anything does happen I wont be shocked.

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Um, I don't think that they're going to attack us with nukes, that is, IF they even attack us at all. However, we cannot rule out the possibility of a nuclear attack against our nation. If Seattle is the target city for a nuclear attack against the United States, then there's really nothing that we can do to prepare for it. We'll just have to try to stop it before it happens. And, if a nuclear attack does occur, I think that it will be with a dirty bomb, which does far less damage (but can blow up an entire stadium) but still spreads deadly radiation everywhere. Some other targets could include Boeing and/or Microsoft if the Space Needle isn't hit. But there are also several other places within the Pacific Northwest (and not just Seattle) that terrorists would probably just love to target. Its scary to think of but we can't just be scared like this non stop, or the terrorists will win. Just go about daily things with a higher alertness of the people around you and thats good enough. You shouldn't need to be constantly scared or worried.


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jgoo, i agree with you. just live your life the best you can. i'm sure the feds will do the best they can to avert any attacks, and sometimes you just have to accept that some things are beyond your control. after all, we're all going to go some way, some time.

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Along these lines, wonder who came up with the brilliant idea to color code the alerts?

It seems pretty silly to me. Unlike air quality alerts which can be scientifically measured, the terrorist alerts can't. How can you possibly measure the probability of some mad terrorist getting bypassing security procedures and attacking. It's impossible.

I though it was better when they just said high alert, warning, and such. It made more sense.

Does anyone really pay much attention to them any more?

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The color-coded alerts are a recycled idea from the Cold War and the possibility of nuclear attack.

Since the code has been yellow for so long, I would pay attention if it suddenly changed. other than that, business as usual.


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Maybe I am just a Texas Redneck with a serious attitude problem mad mad mad but:

Another terrorist attack on our soil will have dire consequences for those who choose to perpetuate attacks on the innocent. I am very sure of one thing. Whether you like George Bush or hate him, he has good ol' boy red American blood in him that doesn't take well to violence against our citizens. There are quite a few grave markers in Texas with murderers names etched in stone. (uh oh another can of worms) He won't fool around with these nuts. They may all be toasted nuts soon, although not the edible type.

I am afraid that another terrorist attack is coming. We all need to pray daily for our country and leaders. Oops...there's that God thing again. Better watch out for the ACLU (Association of Communist Liberal Underminers). For years we have been forewarned about these crazy idiots. Makes a pretty good argument for pre-emptive strikes.


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We have a thread just for this topic in the 9/11 forum. You may have to do a little digging to find it though. That was a few months ago.


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The color-coded alerts are a recycled idea from the Cold War and the possibility of nuclear attack.

Since the code has been yellow for so long, I would pay attention if it suddenly changed. other than that, business as usual.
Which brings me to a question I have had for a long time.

We are supposed to be extra watchful on the fourth. We are supposed to be even more watchful if the color of the alert changes.

Just what, exactly, are we supposed to be watching for? And just what are we supposed to do if we find it?


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