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#711025 - 09/13/02 12:42 PM Triskaidekaphobia  
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To any of you who suffer from triskaidekaphobia, let me just say that I am here to help you if you need me, all the way to midnight tonight, when it will all be over........ wink

(now, let's see who can figure it out)


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#711026 - 09/13/02 12:54 PM Re: Triskaidekaphobia  
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That's actually a word in my limited vocabulary that I know the meaning of!

Fortunately, I do not have that problem.

Derick


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#711027 - 09/13/02 12:55 PM Re: Triskaidekaphobia  
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#711028 - 09/13/02 01:15 PM Re: Triskaidekaphobia  
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I am available to console anyone who suffers from trickydickaphobia (fear of Richard Nixon). :p


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#711029 - 09/13/02 04:44 PM Re: Triskaidekaphobia  
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Fear of friday the 13th.

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#711030 - 09/14/02 12:48 AM Re: Triskaidekaphobia  
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It's an unnatural fear of the number 13.

But now the real thing you should fear......

SATURDAY THE 14TH!!!

laugh


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#711031 - 09/14/02 01:01 AM Re: Triskaidekaphobia  
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Its still the 13th where I live, for another 2 hours and 5 minutes!!! Not a damn bad thing has happened to my today thus far. Actually, it has been a very good day for me. Now, on the bus yesterday, a black cat ran out in front of us. We did not hit the cat, but the person sitting next to me on the bus said that a black cat crossing our paths would be bad luck, especially during the time right around Friday the 13th, with the exception of the Irish. She said that if you're irish, it will bring good luck to you. Well, there you have it! I am 25% irish! So, if anything, this F13 (friday the 13th) brought on good luck for me!!! Even though it was more or less a pretty normal day.
Maybe, I had 25% extra good luck (for being 25% irish) and then when luck for F13 was subtracted, it evened it out. laugh


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#711032 - 09/14/02 06:08 AM Re: Triskaidekaphobia  
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Friday the 13th.I don't know why people believe that this number and day will bring them bad luck. :rolleyes:

Now let's see.I want you to imagine these two things:

1) Imagine a man who believe in this nonsense.When Friday the 13th he'll look for any bad things that can happen to him.And even won't realize that,bad things happen to him almost every day.What's the diffrence?He looks and pays attention to those bad things on Friday the 13th and don't do the same when any other day and date. :rolleyes:

2) Now imagine a man who don't believe that Friday the 13th will bring him bad luck.Imagine even that this man believes that Friday the 13th will bring him good luck.Let's now see...When Friday the 13th,he'll look not for bad things that might happen to him,but for good ones.And again - he'll look and pay attention to the good things that happen to him and this will improve his belief in that Friday the 13th is exactly a lucky day!!! wink

That's it!I always thought that this date and day are lucky and so I don't care what could happen to me then.13 has always been my favourite number. smile


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#711033 - 09/14/02 08:47 AM Re: Triskaidekaphobia  
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Originally posted by Larry:
It's an unnatural fear of the number 13.

But now the [b]real
thing you should fear......

SATURDAY THE 14TH!!!

laugh [/b]
For many Chinese, it is the fear of the number 14. In many Chinese dialects, 14 sounds like the equivalent of "certain death"!

#711034 - 09/14/02 11:29 AM Re: Triskaidekaphobia  
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I am available to console anyone who suffers from trickydickaphobia (fear of Richard Nixon). :p
laugh laugh laugh
(although I think this dates us!)

#711035 - 09/14/02 12:30 PM Re: Triskaidekaphobia  
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Roxane, I heard that in some hospitals in China and Taiwan, they don't have a 4th floor because the number four (sze I think) sounds similar to death (she?). True?

#711036 - 09/14/02 01:11 PM Re: Triskaidekaphobia  
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Brendan,

I have been in quite a few buildings in China including a number of hospitals and there are some of the older ones that do not have a fourth floor (si actually sounds sort of like an English butler saying sir) . The newer ones do.


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#711037 - 09/14/02 04:33 PM Re: Triskaidekaphobia  
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Brendan, I cannot comment on Taiwan (never visited nor wish to do so) but I was in a building in either Beijing or Xian that did not have the 4th storey.

In Singapore, I have yet to come across a building with a missing floor. However, I do know that some people consider houses with the number 4 or 14 in their address bad luck. On the other hand, the number 8 is regarded as lucky, since it sounds like "prosperity" in both Mandarin and Cantonese (but not some of the other Chinese dialects). It is a fact here in Singapore that houses with the number 8 are priced higher than other identical units in some housing developments! The same goes for 3, which sounds like "life" in Cantonese (but not in Mandarin).

In Cantonese, 4 sounds like "say". There is no equivalent English sound for 4 in Mandarin, but "sze" would be close. Both "death" and 4 have the same pronounciation in Mandarin, but the tone is different.

JBryan, one of the meanings of the sound "sir" in Mandarin is s**, with a bad connotation! laugh

#711038 - 09/14/02 05:18 PM Re: Triskaidekaphobia  
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JBryan, one of the meanings of the sound "sir" in Mandarin is s**, with a bad conotation!
Roxane,
I knew this, actually smile . There are actually some jokes in Mandarin that make a play on the similarity between the two. I am quite certain of the Mandarin pronunciation four the number four and it sounds just about like I said. Something like sir without the r sound. "Size" does not even come close to the way I've heard it pronounced in China. My wife confirms that as well (born and raised in Shanghai).

When I was doing the RF Engineering for a paging company in China I encountered many instances of the superstition with regard to the number 4 and the number 8. The paging company I worked for would order blocks of 1,000 phone numbers for their customers and would have to order another one as soon as all phone numbers with an 8 were taken. There were some people that would just not accept any number unless there was at least one 8 in it and, of course, the multiple 8 combinations were highly prized. You could not pay some people to take numbers with a 4 in them.

In my job, I surveyed a lot of building roof tops for radio transmitters (well over 100) and was in a lot of Chinese buildings, old, new, and even under construction. A common thing to find in the stairwell of a building under construction was the Chinese character for the word s*** scrawled on the wall at the fourth floor landing (no doubt left by some construction worker). I spent a lot of time in stairwells as well because many of the buildings in China do not have working elevators. Especially the ones under construction. The first thing I usually asked whenever we arrived at a building for a survey was "you meiyou dian ti". All too often the response was "meiyou". One of my greatest treasures from China are the hundreds of photographs that I took from the rooftops of buildings all over the country as well as all of the other photographs I took.


Better to light one small candle than to curse the %&#$@#! darkness. :t:
#711039 - 09/14/02 05:40 PM Re: Triskaidekaphobia  
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I am quite certain of the Mandarin pronunciation four the number four and it sounds just about like I said. Something like sir without the r sound. "Size" does not even come close to the way I've heard it pronounced in China. My wife confirms that as well (born and raised in Shanghai).
Aha... this explains it. The pronounciation of 4 with the rolling of the "r" at the end is typical of northern China, especially Beijing. It is akin to American English vs British English, with the rolling of the "r" in the former. The dictionary pronounciation of 4 is only "si", without the "r" at the end. You might say that the dictionary pronounciation is the Received Pronounciation that BBC broadcasters used until a decade ago. My mother is a Mandarin radio/TV news broadcaster, so I grew up with the "Received Pronounciation" of Mandarin!

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The first thing I usually asked whenever we arrived at a building for a survey was "you meiyou dian ti". All too often the response was "meiyou".
The most dreaded phrase in high-rise Singapore is "dian ti huai le"! laugh

#711040 - 09/14/02 07:23 PM Re: Triskaidekaphobia  
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I could always spot someone from Beijing by their pronunciation. There was that pervasive rolling "r" twang to which you refered on the end of many words that seemed to be absent in all other parts of China. Of course in the South Catonese was heard most often although all the PLA people could all speak Mandarin. Then there were these regional dialects that would change in a very short distance. I have had interpreters who were hired to speak the local dialect who, when we moved 50 miles down the road, would look at me and say "I have no idea what he is saying". Great fun. laugh


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#711041 - 09/14/02 10:07 PM Re: Triskaidekaphobia  
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13's a good number, but I'm partial to 18. Given my profession and my favorite number, pretty easy to guess my religion, no? Any takers.

Todd

#711042 - 09/14/02 11:57 PM Re: Triskaidekaphobia  
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So, Todd - is your other favorite number "FORE!" ?

smile Jodi

#711043 - 09/15/02 12:14 AM Re: Triskaidekaphobia  
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13's a good number, but I'm partial to 18. Given my profession and my favorite number, pretty easy to guess my religion, no? Any takers.
Zoroastrian? :rolleyes: confused


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#711044 - 09/15/02 08:50 AM Re: Triskaidekaphobia  
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I don't know if it is a religion exactly but it is holey.


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#711045 - 09/15/02 11:08 AM Re: Triskaidekaphobia  
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13's a good number, but I'm partial to 18. Given my profession and my favorite number, pretty easy to guess my religion, no? Any takers.

Todd
Chai??

Happy New Year!

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#711046 - 09/15/02 04:31 PM Re: Triskaidekaphobia  
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I don't know if it is a religion exactly but it is holey.
Good one! laugh Jodi

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You have a good fast tomorrow, as I will. Happy New Year to you.

From an MOT in Texas. smile


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