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Welcome to Wal Mart Sir, can you spare a dime?
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Montana may tax WalMart and Target because their poorly-paid workers end up on public assistance.

Isn’t this penalizing a business for its success?

http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/16/news/fortune500/walmart_tax.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes

Why not just raise the state’s minimum wage?

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No, but it's penalizing the creeping corporate socialism that is endemic to the services sector. Raising the minimum wage will do nothing but impoverish service industry further.

Glad to see that a conservative state such as Montana has woken up to the fact that the corporate mega-giants are welfare bums.


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So I take it mom and pop paid much better than Wal Mart or Target? Or is this just another government tax scheme?

Wait, I'll answer my own question.

I'm not necessarily defending the big retailers, but it seems to me no one will be helped by this tax. It's just another creative way for the weasels to fleece the general public. Remember, companies don't pay taxes, consumers do.


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Remember, companies don't pay taxes, consumers do.
Doesn't matter though. Consumers pay less at Walmart because Walmart pays employees less. Because Walmart pays employees less, they qualify for public benefits. State taxes Walmart to make up for public benefits paid to Walmart employees. Walmart has to raise prices to cover the tax.

Walmart could make the whole thing easier by paying a living wage and raising prices to cover it.

The only reason Walmart is able to pay workers so little is that they now are able to make up the difference with public benefits.

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Jack, you didn't dispute my point. You just supported raising taxes by having consumers pay them.

How about if WalMart just decides to pull out of Montana? Are you going to tax them for that? And if they do pull out then what of the welfare roles in Montana?

Or would you care to answer my original question? Did mom and pop pay that "living" wage you expect Walmart to? And if not (which I highly doubt) then this is all just a straw dog to increase taxes. My original premise.


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At least a Tax on the box stores makes the customers of those stores shoulder the burden, Raising the minimum wage forces those that don't shop there to pick up the tab.


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