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#700700 - 06/23/04 10:08 PM Digital Piano Recommendation  
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I'm looking for a recommendation for a digital piano for my family. I was looking at Roland HP-1 and HP-2 (which were offered at $1,865 and $2,699). I have no idea if this is reasonable price or not. I'm looking for realistic sound and feel mostly, otherwise, I'm not sure what features I want.

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#700701 - 06/24/04 02:33 AM Re: Digital Piano Recommendation  
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Well, here's a few questions for you to start with:

Do you want a piece of furniture like a Clavinova, or a stage-type piano with a stand?

Do you want 32, 64, or 128 polyphony? I'd recommend at least 64.

Do you want very heavy keys that will give your fingers a workout, or a more light key feel?

Do you want the sustain pedal to be as realistic as possible? (not just an on-off flat pedal)

Do you care if the piano isn't very computer friendly (only need it for the piano sound?)

There's such a huge range of digital pianos, so you might want to think about other constraints.

#700702 - 06/24/04 04:14 PM Re: Digital Piano Recommendation  
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Frungy's advice is excellent. Recently I was offered a Roland HP 3 for $2,700 so your price sounds high. Make sure you compare different brands -- touch/response can be a personal thing. I ended up buying a Clavinova with wooden keys and am very happy. But I do notice that the touch is much more difficult on mine (even on the light setting) than when I go to lessons on my teacher's new acoustic grand. Makes me wonder if I shouldn't have settled for a CLP (Yamaha Clavinova) 150 or 170.

#700703 - 06/25/04 03:08 PM Re: Digital Piano Recommendation  
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Ok, I would like a Clavinova with at least 64 polyphony. I'd like keys and pedal that feel like an accoustic piano if possible. I'm not concerned with it being computer friendly.

So if the price offered on the Roland isn't good, can I negotiate? What price should I ask for for the HP-2? Should I try the Yamaha 150?

Thanks for your help!

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#700704 - 06/27/04 05:24 PM Re: Digital Piano Recommendation  
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newtopiano, The best strategy is to check with different stores and different dealers. Some may be willing to offer a better price more than others depending on inventory or whatever. I definitely got conflicting opinions on the best digital keyboards. It took me several visits to just one store to learn the differences between Roland's HP 1, HP 2, HP 3 and HP 5. (The HP 5 was way out of my range and anyway had too much computer gagetry for me.) But I do think the HP 3 is better than the HP 2 if you can get the dealer to negotiate the price down.

I got very interested in Kawai but the latest model had not yet hit the stores here, and I was considering waiting for them to come out before making up my mind. While I didn't exactly tell the Yamaha dealer that, I did emphasize that the touch was very important and I was hesitating to buy.

So, what you might want to do is take your time -- don't rush this process -- because I found every time I went into a store I learned something I didn't know. Make sure you know exactly which digitals you like -- try to have at least two different makes -- and then you can suggest working out the price with your dealer.

Good luck!

#700705 - 06/27/04 09:05 PM Re: Digital Piano Recommendation  
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DGX500 Yamaha....any comments. I realize these aren't weighted keys but I need something that will be good to practice in silence ( i.e. earphones) and light enough to be portable when taking north to cottage. Live in a condo and lots of time I'm just not comfortable really working away like I need to on my scales and playing my "fortes" the way they should be played. I'm in grade 8 RCM Celebration Series.
I see people like Yamaha P120 and P90 which sounds wonderful with the hammered keys, but I don't want to lay out those dollars when I've already got an acoustic. What about the Yamaha P60 ?
Bottom line: price is an issue and weight.
Any opinions would be appreciated. Thanks very much in advance.

#700706 - 06/29/04 09:07 AM Re: Digital Piano Recommendation  
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newtopiano: You should be able to negotiate the price down a bit. Try out as many as possible before making your final decision.

sugarbush: Being that the keys on the dgx are not weighted can represent a big problem (I think you would be better off going with the p60). Since cost is an issue, my suggestion would be to look into the new casio line (I haven't had the opportunity to try them out myself, but at that price range they should be worth looking into).

#700707 - 07/03/04 10:36 PM Re: Digital Piano Recommendation  
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I agree.
If price is an issue, look into new Casio digital piano. Quality and touch are quite good. Sound quality is not that great but acceptable.
I had the same problem with yamaha digital pianos...
Their keys are heavy and not that close to real piano feel. My budget is limited also. After trying out dozens of digital pianos for dozens of times, I finally bought Casion AP38 which has nice piano feel. I paid 699 for B stock item shipping and handling free. For me , it is the closet to the acoustic piano I used to play before.
If I can afford, I would get Roland HP2 or HP3. Roland digital pianos are high in quality with great sounds. HPi5 seem to be excellent for learning piano playing. Yet to be release in the U.S, HPi7/HP7 have 128 polyphony.
anyway, if I could afford one, I would settle with HP2.

#700708 - 07/05/04 01:08 PM Re: Digital Piano Recommendation  
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Sugarbush. Your best bet is with Casio if budget is a great concern. I am getting a Casio for sure but doesn't know which one yet. I would not recommend getting the Yamaha DGX500 because the keys are not weighted. I mistakenly got one and when I played it for the first time realized that the keys felt like a keyboard.

The Casio AP38 is not quite portable. But there are really affordable Casio portable piano lines. I think they are called the Privia. You might want to check out the PX100 or PX300 for something cheap.

#700709 - 07/05/04 01:21 PM Re: Digital Piano Recommendation  
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The Casio PS20 is also very wallet friendly. I am debating whether to get that or the AP31. Both has about the same features and around the same price. Is there a big difference between the quality?

#700710 - 07/06/04 08:23 PM Re: Digital Piano Recommendation  
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hmmm...
PS20 is my choice.. giving that AP31 has very limited function and sounds, it is mono digital piano too. PS20 is stereo one.. Piano sounds sweet too. You can hear demo at:
http://www.casio-europe.com/euro/emi/ps20/

Hope it helps..


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