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Re: Doepfer PK88 initial impressions #700357
03/27/05 02:36 PM
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I have a P-120, and adjusting the touch sensitivity only changes the velocity curves as SteveY points out. Changing the resistance would require a pretty complex mechanism. And if that mechanism existed I'm sure its effects would not be subtle.

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Re: Doepfer PK88 initial impressions #700358
03/27/05 03:09 PM
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David,
What you're likely feeling is that as the sound changes, it seems to change the touch. There is a strong mind/body connection for a pianist between touch and sound.

Do any digitals allow you to actually change the physical touch? As Xenon says it would be complex and expensive.

By the way, the Doepfer is shaping up nicely. No, the combination isn't my grand by about a million miles, but it's great for technical practice.


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Re: Doepfer PK88 initial impressions #700359
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Re: Doepfer PK88 initial impressions #700360
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Just a comment, DanM...
The velocity settings are not a GigaStudio problem per se, it's mora a matter on what keyboard the sample library's velocity keyswitch zones were adjusted to.
As you may have found, the MIDI filters within GigaStudio allow you to program them to adjust your keyboard's incoming velocity values to settings more suited to the library.
Kinda like electronic regulation and voicing of your piano library. smile


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Re: Doepfer PK88 initial impressions #700361
03/29/05 04:43 AM
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Dan,

On the Yamaha P-series boards, adjusting touch sensitivity *does* change the resistance that players feel. Unfortunately, it also changes the tone and, I believe, the dynamic range. For example, the Heavy (or is it Hard?) setting produces more resistance, but also produces a darker overall tone with less dynamic range. My P-80 didn't come back today, so I can't check this.

DavidH
Touch sensitivity doesn't affect key feel on any stage piano, as someone else said, its an illusion of sound!
Also, the reason you hear a change in tone, is also an illusion of sorts! When you put the piano on 'heavy' setting, you will be mostly playing soft (piano) or medium (mezzo piano) velocities. On the P-series, these tones are more mellow than loud (forte) velocities. This is either done with dynamic sampling, or using a filter.
Also, When you put the piano on 'light' setting, you will be mostly playing loud (forte) or medium (mezzo forte) velocities. These will be generally brighter.


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Re: Doepfer PK88 initial impressions #700362
03/30/05 07:29 PM
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Cobs,

Thanks for explaining how different settings produce different tones that are produced by the different settings.

I haven't used my P-80 in a couple of years, but will check it out as soon as I get it back from a minor repair.

DavidH

Re: Doepfer PK88 initial impressions #700363
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Hello everyone.
After reading this forum (and with some other experiences I've had) I am seriously considering buying a Doepfer pk88 and probably the "Akoustik Piano" sample from Native Intruments. I was wondering if anyone could recomend a specific sound card that works well in this setup (I searched the web but there are just too many to choose from).
Thanks!


Marcin Masecki
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