Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.5 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!


SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Modern Piano Moving
Modern Piano Moving
(ad)
Virtual Sheet Music
Download Sheet Music Instantly
Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads
Sheet Music...
(125ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Piano Buyer Guide
Piano Buyer Spring 2017
(ad)
Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restorations and sales
Who's Online Now
99 registered members (accordeur, AlanB, 36251, ale h, ando, anamnesis, 28 invisible), 2,075 guests, and 9 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords & Scales
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#699278 - 03/09/05 05:48 PM Will a digital piano ruin my touch?  
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 108
Katey Offline
Full Member
Katey  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 108
London,UK
Hello, I play the piano to about grade 8 standard, I love Debussy and Rachmaninov, and I just played some amazing Roland and Yamaha digital pianos today. A digital piano would be v useful for me for late night/early morning practising but I dont want to ruin my technique playing a digital piano. Do all you professionals / music students out there ever play digital pianos, and should I buy one? ? ?
Any advice gladly appreciated


The skates' songs are calling me to the sea

Pass by and hear my tunes at:
http://www.myspace.com/elazmomusic
(ad) ROLAND

Click Here

#699279 - 03/09/05 06:59 PM Re: Will a digital piano ruin my touch?  
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 8,483
signa Offline
8000 Post Club Member
signa  Offline
8000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 8,483
Ohio, USA
some musicians or professionals have both acoustic and digital pianos at home or studio. so, i would imagine they didn't ruin their techniques by having the both.

#699280 - 03/12/05 04:03 PM Re: Will a digital piano ruin my touch?  
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 327
cobs Offline
Full Member
cobs  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 327
London
http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/27/233.html

I suggest you read this topic, where this was debated in full.

My view in short - No, a digital piano will certainly not ruin your touch, go for it!


A proud employee of Yamaha-Kemble Music

(please scan all posts with bias scanner...)
#699281 - 03/12/05 10:02 PM Re: Will a digital piano ruin my touch?  
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 86
Kenpcola Offline
Full Member
Kenpcola  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 86
Pensacola, FL
It depends. If you play digital and acoustic back and forth, you will maintain the acoustic piano touch. If you substitute acoustic one with digital, you touch will be degraded to some degree, especially if you are not careful with velocity setting of digital piano.

(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#699282 - 03/13/05 11:30 AM Re: Will a digital piano ruin my touch?  
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 327
cobs Offline
Full Member
cobs  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 327
London
Quote
Originally posted by Kenpcola:
It depends. If you play digital and acoustic back and forth, you will maintain the acoustic piano touch. If you substitute acoustic one with digital, you touch will be degraded to some degree, especially if you are not careful with velocity setting of digital piano.
I disagree, it depends entirely on what type of digital piano you are using. Obviously, a Casio model from 10 years ago may not benefit you, but a current model from any major manufacturer will be fine.


A proud employee of Yamaha-Kemble Music

(please scan all posts with bias scanner...)
#699283 - 03/16/05 09:44 AM Re: Will a digital piano ruin my touch?  
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,243
Steve Chandler Offline
3000 Post Club Member
Steve Chandler  Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,243
Urbandale, Iowa
I have to agree with Cobs on this one. I recently bought a Yamaha P60 and it is a big improvement over the Samick upright that we have. I suppose if you're used to playing only the highest quality grands your touch might degrade a bit, but most of us live in the real world. We have to play lesser instruments and a good quality recent digital piano can actually be an improvement. I would suggest that you not limit yourself to playing only the digital as learning how to make a crappy instrument sound good is a valuable skill and one that will serve you well even with the best pianos.

Cheers,

#699284 - 03/16/05 09:51 AM Re: Will a digital piano ruin my touch?  
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 9
Steve Tiilikainen Offline
Junior Member
Steve Tiilikainen  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 9
Falls Church, VA
I've been playing for about 22 years, and I would only recommend using a digital piano that has a fully-weighted progressive hammer action. My keyboard (a Roland KR-7) even duplicates escapement. I couldn't in good conscience recommend anything else (i.e. actions that use springs; I'm sure other manufacturers produce some sort of progressive hammer action) short of buying an actual acoustic grand piano.


Roland KR-7
#699285 - 03/17/05 10:53 AM Re: Will a digital piano ruin my touch?  
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 327
cobs Offline
Full Member
cobs  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 327
London
Quote
Originally posted by Steve Tiilikainen:
I've been playing for about 22 years, and I would only recommend using a digital piano that has a fully-weighted progressive hammer action. My keyboard (a Roland KR-7) even duplicates escapement. I couldn't in good conscience recommend anything else (i.e. actions that use springs; I'm sure other manufacturers produce some sort of progressive hammer action) short of buying an actual acoustic grand piano.
Yes, I totally agree. You should never use a keyboard without a proper weighted action for piano practice.
Most digital pianos by major brands (Roland, Yamaha, Kawai...) have a fully weighted action.


A proud employee of Yamaha-Kemble Music

(please scan all posts with bias scanner...)
#699286 - 03/20/05 03:47 AM Re: Will a digital piano ruin my touch?  
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 776
neciebugs Offline
500 Post Club Member
neciebugs  Offline
500 Post Club Member

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 776
Chula Vista
my perspective... I have a YDP 121. It has launched me back into serious playing. I love it... however... it is very difficult to transition to my teachers steinway. I am in the market for an accoustical as soon as my move to CA is complete this summer. If I can not justify the extra price on a yamaha silent piano, i will most definately keepy my digital for night time practice... however... at this point in my studies... I can not see it being a total replacement... so to answer Katey... YOU SHOULD BE ABSOLUTELY FINE!! smile

but to use it as your ONLY instrument... first... the digital doesnt have the sympathetic vibrations or overtones that an accoustical has... and although i have 3 pedals and full sustenudo... pedalling is hindered greatly... there is much more control involved with an accoustical.

For the person learning to play, digs are great... you cant find a decent sounding accoustical for the cost of an average digital with full weighted/graded keys.

But all in all... digital's have come a LONG WAY... I had one of those 10-12 year old casios.. I hated it... sounded twangy... spring action... touch responsive? hahaha sure... and Im the good fairy! I cant beleive I shelled out a grand for that thing. It was in my closet more than my clothes. I was so thrilled when i got my YDP 120.


Denise
2005 Schulze Pollmann 126/e Classico Upright (Maple with Sunburst inlay)
1965 Baldwin Model L 6'3" Grand (Satin Black)
#699287 - 03/20/05 10:47 AM Re: Will a digital piano ruin my touch?  
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 327
cobs Offline
Full Member
cobs  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 327
London
Quote
Originally posted by neciebuggs:

but to use it as your ONLY instrument... first... the digital doesnt have the sympathetic vibrations or overtones that an accoustical has... and although i have 3 pedals and full sustenudo... pedalling is hindered greatly... there is much more control involved with an accoustical.
But, please remember that you can get far better digital models than the YDP121. In fact, all the disadvantages you mention (keyboard feel, lack of sympathetic resonance, lack of pedalling control) are all addressed (and improved) on many models of the Yamaha CLP range, particularly near the top of the range, for example the much talked about CLP170.

I can understand why you'd find it hard to transfer from the YDP121 to a Steinway, but I dont find this with higher end models, personally.


A proud employee of Yamaha-Kemble Music

(please scan all posts with bias scanner...)
#699288 - 03/21/05 05:57 PM Re: Will a digital piano ruin my touch?  
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 12
cmwck Offline
Junior Member
cmwck  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 12
Quote
Originally posted by Katey:
Hello, I play the piano to about grade 8 standard, I love Debussy and Rachmaninov, and I just played some amazing Roland and Yamaha digital pianos today. A digital piano would be v useful for me for late night/early morning practising but I dont want to ruin my technique playing a digital piano. Do all you professionals / music students out there ever play digital pianos, and should I buy one? ? ?
Any advice gladly appreciated
I just bought a Yamaha P120. My plan is to disable the internal sound module and use PMI's Old Lady and Emperor giga-sampled pianos. I had a chance to compare the P90 (which I think uses the same action as the P120, but thats a whole 'nother debate) against a Yamaha baby grand and the actions were fairly similar. If anything, the P90 exaggerated the weight of the lower keys.

I really hope the action of the P120 won't screw me up over the long run even though I'm using a very high-quality sound module.

#699289 - 03/22/05 08:33 AM Re: Will a digital piano ruin my touch?  
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 776
neciebugs Offline
500 Post Club Member
neciebugs  Offline
500 Post Club Member

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 776
Chula Vista
Cobs,
I appreciate your opinion, and I am sure you are right that they are getting better, but i am a firm believer that nothing digital can replace the total package of an accoustical piano. As they get better, I am sure transferring from one to the other is going to get better to... and i dont think it will "ruin" ones touch. I am so thankful that they ARE out there, because 2 years ago when I got back into playing... there was NO way I could afford a good accoustical.
Anyway... smile I havent tried a CLP, and probably wont, as I am now in the market for a good accoustical!

take care


Denise
2005 Schulze Pollmann 126/e Classico Upright (Maple with Sunburst inlay)
1965 Baldwin Model L 6'3" Grand (Satin Black)
#699290 - 03/22/05 08:54 AM Re: Will a digital piano ruin my touch?  
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 69
Groggy60 Offline
Full Member
Groggy60  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 69
Ontario, Canada
Unless you can afford a grand piano, the higher end digital pianos from Roland and Kawai have weighted keys that are better than uprights. They are grand actions, not upright actions.


George

Moderated by  Piano World 

Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World) our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.


Free Shipping on Jansen Artist Piano Benches
(ad)
Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
ad
Pierce Piano Atlas


(ad)
Pianoteq
Grotrian Concert
Royal
for Pianoteq out now
What's Hot!!
Why Do You Play The Piano?
-------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
-------------------
Piano Classified Ads
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Starting Scarbo.
by Sean P. 06/26/17 08:45 PM
Changing Piano Teachers
by Tim1028. 06/26/17 07:31 PM
what does he play in theLH here?
by harbop. 06/26/17 06:08 PM
Philip Glass ├ętude 6 question
by Peyton. 06/26/17 05:39 PM
(ad)
Sheet Music Plus
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
(ad)
Accu-Tuner
Sanderson Accu-Tuner
Forum Statistics
Forums44
Topics180,475
Posts2,639,329
Members88,200
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Check It Out!
There's a lot more to Piano World than just the forums.
Check It Out!
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers


 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2017 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0