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Casio PX-800 is on the way. A long journey.
#692355 04/12/07 12:09 PM
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Talk about a tough decision. I like the casio keyboards and feel, but didn't want to invest $500-700 in several year old technology with existing PX models. However, the new PX-800 is not cheap either, and its unproven so there is some risk. Its right in a very difficult price range because if you 'pay just a little more' you can keep stepping up to "better" brands and models, which of course is all driven by preference and opinion.

I used to own a Yamaha DX7-IIFD, and that was stolen years ago (uninsured and I was out $1,800). Replaced it with a Kurzweil K2500 Rack Module and Fatar Studio 900 semi-weighted 88 key controller. It sounded great, but was too much equipment for me since I basically just dabbled with the piano sounds and occasional strings. I can barely read music let alone play (I play by ear mostly), but I appreciated the sound quality the expensive gear provided which is why I bought it. That gear was sold for financial reasons several years ago and I basically quit playing. That sucked, by the way, but time heals smile .

Technology has evolved since, and the piano bug has bitten again -- I wanted to get a new digital piano but I didn't want to go on eBay and buy someone's used nightmare. Been there, done that. Plus, there are tons of digital piano's out there now with great polyphony if you can just figure out which one is right for you.

I think I have read every post in the forum, some several times, and listened to countless demos and watched hundreds of youtube videos of various keyboard models. I was going blind with research and had to really narrow down what I wanted from the instrument.

Built in Damper Pedals and a stand were high on my list, so that narrows the field quickly and adds a lot to the price right away. Typical Home Models with 64 polyphony start at a grand, or they have inferior sound systems. I didn't want a bunch of cables and amps and external modules again.

I chose the casio for its sound (I just like it, not because it perfectly replicates a true piano sound, but there is a mello, almost Baldwin-sounding dull smooth tone that I like), and because it has an ugly color stand with key cover, built in pedals, a 40watt 4 speaker sound system, 128 polyphony, higher resolution key dynamics compared to previous models, redesigned damper functionality so notes decay more naturally, and it doesn't look like a synth or take up much space. It seems like a lot of features for the price and my needs and I stretched my $700 budget up to $900 eek .

Now, after it gets here next week, I will post back if I made the right choice. laugh

By the way, as far as online music suppliers go, I think that American Musical Supply, Zzounds, and SameDayMusic are all the same exact company just operating multiple websites out of the same warehouse. At least the internet registry says the websites are all registered to the same guy.

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Congratulations on your purchase, I'll be interested in seeing your report when it arrives. Hopefully in a couple of weeks I'll be making the same decision.

I wasn't expecting the PX800 to cost quite as much as it does in Europe though; over £750 which is pretty much $1,500 dollars US.

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#692357 04/12/07 01:49 PM
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for $900, it's a good one, especially because it's a new model with 128 polyphony. if it's going to be selling also at GC, then i'd go try it...

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Keyboard Player Issue 311 had a review of the PX-800 and they had some comments, a few of which I paraphrase:

They felt the action/touch is a bit heavy compared to other digital pianos

Piano Sound 1 has an attractive 'bell-like' tone in mid to upper registers and "No Nasties lurking about" (in the sound).

They were happy with the new acoustic resonance feature that enhanced the piano-like resonance effect(works as advertised)

They noted the sound system had "No bass roll off like previous models"

Features were strong. Biggest complaint was some features took many button pushes and the LED display was limited.

They said the music desk was glass.

Overall: "Good value for money..."

FWIW,

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#692359 04/15/07 08:58 PM
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FROM Keyboard Magazine Regarding the PX-800:
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A warning to Casio skeptics: Playing a Privia may be hazardous to your cynicism. Both new members of this family employ a 128-voice, three-layer grand piano sound with a new sampling technique Casio calls AIF. That stands for “Acoustic Intelligent Filtering,” and its sonic benefits include a more natural decay and ringing-out of the tone. The main advantage of the PX-800 ($1,199.95) over the PX-200 ($899.95) is more powerful, bassier onboard speakers, as both models feature SD card slots, USB, and memory for 82 songs. We played both and were quite impressed with their smooth action, rich sound, and above all, outstanding value.


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is keyboard unit actually the same for the 800 and 200? I mean, is the actual piano the same...with the only difference being in the added stand on the 800.

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PX 200/800 Comparison Website

They're pretty similar. The biggest differences are the stand, pedals, speaker & amp size.

The 800 does not have auto-accompaniment or all of the pushbuttons that the 200 has. Also the headphone outputs are slightly different.


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#692362 04/16/07 12:01 AM
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yes, i saw that comparison.

the "dark greyed" boxes is what i'm referring to. Those look like the specs on the stand.

For example, if you look at speakers, the box speakers look like the ones on the px800 stand.

I'm guessing the stereo jacks are part of the stand as well.

Is the only true difference the auto-accompaniment?

This is all speculation on my part of course. I have never seen either in person.

I guess if you've seen both in person, you are prob right.

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Has anyone that has played on the PX800, or the PX700 for that matter, have any comments on the pedals? I recently got a chance to play on a 700 in a store for about 45secs and Im still up in the air on this. The pedals are plastic on the 700, are they the same on the 800? Its a bit hard to tell from the pictures I've seen.

Also do they wear out at all? Do they feel "close" to natural? Are there any companies that make "after market" pedals for these models? And maybe replace the seemingly flimsy ones?

Just curious,
Aaj

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px200/800 are new models with better features, and px700 is an older one, not quite the same.

check on the link that OnTheWeb posted above, and there's a side by side comparision of 200 vs. 800. i wonder though if 'half-pedal' is only on 200 but not on 800?

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what i was trying to say is: besides the auto accompaniment, is px800=px200+cs65 stand?

If you click on the comparision, it looks like the difference in spec are exclusively limited to added functionality of the stand. Including the pedals.

Has anyone seen 200 vs 800 side by side?

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Originally posted by signa:
check on the link that OnTheWeb posted above, and there's a side by side comparision of 200 vs. 800. i wonder though if 'half-pedal' is only on 200 but not on 800?
I read somewhere that the 800 does indeed support half pedaling. I beleive it was in the manual that I found online. Been doing alot of research on the PX800, may actually end of buying it,lol.

EDIT: Found it!
Casio Manuals

PX800 manual is almost at the bottom, check out page E-13 of the PDF.

Aaj

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From what I understand(please correct me if I am wrong) The PX800 comes complete with stand that has pedals that support half pedaling. The stand for the PX200 does not come with the pedal unit. So the complete PX200, stand and pedal package will cost as much as the PX800. Unless you need the portability for gigging, the PX800 is a better buy with better speakers. So in this respect px800 might not equal to px200+cs65 stand.

Regards, calvero

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and this one too with free shipping
http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-CAS-PX800.html

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for those in Europe, it seems thomann.de have the privia px-800 for 888 euros or £608

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Originally posted by calvero:
From what I understand(please correct me if I am wrong) The PX800 comes complete with stand that has pedals that support half pedaling. The stand for the PX200 does not come with the pedal unit. So the complete PX200, stand and pedal package will cost as much as the PX800. Unless you need the portability for gigging, the PX800 is a better buy with better speakers. So in this respect px800 might not equal to px200+cs65 stand.

Regards, calvero
True. Also, the px800 has the built in sliding key cover which will help keep the crud out of the keybed when not in use. I felt the improved sound system and nicer stand was worth it. The px800 speakers are also mounted in a resonant,damped, bass-reflex box to improve the acoustics...you won't get that with the cs65 stand.

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thanks for the email OTW. I personally opted for the px-200 with an X-stand because I portability is important to me.

I now see that the cs65 is different than the px-800 stand. I'm hoping/guessing they will offer the px-800 stand seperately should i need it the future.

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Originally posted by jpjpjp:
thanks for the email OTW. I personally opted for the px-200 with an X-stand because I portability is important to me.

I now see that the cs65 is different than the px-800 stand. I'm hoping/guessing they will offer the px-800 stand seperately should i need it the future.
Congrats on the new Keyboard. My PX-800 replacement unit arrives today. We'll be waiting to see how you like yours.


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PX 200/800 Comparison Website

They're pretty similar. The biggest differences are the stand, pedals, speaker & amp size.

The 800 does not have auto-accompaniment or all of the pushbuttons that the 200 has. Also the headphone outputs are slightly different.
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I have a question about the auto-accompaniment feature on px800. On the casio's website it states that px800 has 20 rhythms:

http://www.casio.com/products/Music...l_Pianos/PX-800/content/Technical_Specs/

Is it just a typo or is it true?

Thanks,

Tim

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