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#690487 - 04/11/03 08:21 PM action question  
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Just got a digital stage piano and many of the base keys do not "repeat" well. When I repeat a note rapidly the sound is softer/ muted and the feel is "muffled". Is this an inherent problem with all digital pianos? Am I expecting too much? Is it from the "progressive action" attempt to make the base seem more piano like? Could it be the make (Kurzweil)

Any input would be appreciated!

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#690488 - 05/06/03 09:33 PM Re: action question  
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That problem is not evident on either my Roland (FP3) or Yamaha (P120S) digitals. I personally can't stand the Kurzweil action - so I probably shouldn't be yacking... but still - you asked. ;-)

btw the Roland repeats a LOT faster/easier than the much heavier Yamaha.

-Lorenzo

#690489 - 05/07/03 04:30 AM Re: action question  
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Lorenzo,

Don't you mean Studiologic/Fatar action? Last I heard, Kurzweil didn't make their own actions, but I could be wrong.

I tried a Studiologic SL-880 Pro recently and found the action far superior to older Studiologic models and Kurzweil pianos. I've been told they've refined their design, which I'm inclined to believe. It will be interesting to see if these "improvements" (?) find their way into Kurzweil pianos...

David


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#690490 - 05/06/03 11:34 PM Re: action question  
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Ah yes - the Fatar action. If that's what it is, then yes, that's the action I don't like. frown

See, I didn't even know where the thing comes from...

I do, however, enjoy Kurzweil sounds (except for piano).

Cheers!
Lorenzo

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#690491 - 05/23/03 02:27 AM Re: action question  
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Hi Guys,

Thanks so much for the input. I haven't checked back in a while...because I've been busy with my new piano(s). The Kurzweil got sent back & I ended up with two: a Yamaha p80 and a Roland FP5. I prefer the Yamaha (and this was what I originally set out to buy), but I'm happy with both. I'd love to try out a p250 ...but don't know if I'd get one because of its size.

I never did get an answere back on the Kurzweil; don't know if it was a defect or standard for the product. From what I remember of the action there seemed to be a lot of "secondary noise" from the key motion.

Wish I could justify getting a few more....

Thanks again!

#690492 - 05/23/03 08:07 AM Re: action question  
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Quote
Just got a digital stage piano and many of the base keys do not "repeat" well. When I repeat a note rapidly the sound is softer/ muted and the feel is "muffled". Is this an inherent problem with all digital pianos? Am I expecting too much? Is it from the "progressive action" attempt to make the base seem more piano like? Could it be the make (Kurzweil)

Any input would be appreciated!
Erica, what you are describing is the result of limited polyphony. You will see very much the same effect: try to do a palm swipe with the pedal pushed down. This a the way to test a dig piano!
The muffled sound is due to the fact that the board runs out of voices that it can produce simultaneously. I have had a Kawai ESX with 32 poly, and now I have a Yamaha P250 with 128 poly(!!) plus it does string resonance too. I have hot seen such realistic piano emulation..
Peter


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