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#686538 - 11/04/04 05:08 PM digital pianos  
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Can you please help us? We are trying to decide on a digital piano for our 10 & 13 year old kids. Has anyone heard of Valdesta or Adagio. It seems Yamaha is more expensive. We're trying to keep the price under a thousand dollars, if possible.

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#686539 - 11/04/04 07:22 PM Re: digital pianos  
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Hi,

I'm an adult beginner and I am going to buy the Roland HP103. For your budget, I think the Yamaha CLP115/CLP120 or Roland HP101 or older model of Roland HP1/HP2 will be a good choice. If you want a portable one, Yamaha P60 will be a good choice too.

Cheers
Wallace

#686540 - 11/04/04 08:53 PM Re: digital pianos  
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If you want to save money, look into getting a stage piano like the yamaha p60 wallacetai mentioned, or the p120.

Also, if you really need your piano to look a bit like a real upright, look at the ydp113 or ydp223. These are equivalent to the clp115 and clp120 (I think) and are much cheaper because they (along with the yamaha p60 and p120) are sold at discount music stores like guitar center and others. The clavinovas are sold only through piano dealers and usually have a much higher markup.

If you want something really inexpensive, but with a decent 88-key weighted hammer action, look at the casio px-100 and px-300. These may not wear as well as a yamaha or roland, but you can't beat the price at $500 - $600. There's also the closeout ps-20 which has even better action at around $600 - $700.

You will need to figure in the price of a bench and stand if you buy a stage piano like the casio or yamaha p series pianos. The ydp and clavinova series include the stand and bench.

#686541 - 11/04/04 09:19 PM Re: digital pianos  
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The PX-100 AND 300 are not very good instruments at all (in my opinion) Look at the YDP-223 or one of the portable pianos.....P-60 etc.
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#686542 - 11/05/04 03:45 AM Re: digital pianos  
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I just pay for my HP103 today, it costs me $US 2080, believe it or not, it is the cheapest price I can get it from Melbourne (I think price in USA & UK are always cheaper than Australia frown (

Even Casio PX-100 cost $US 1000 here in Australia, that's why I rather pay more for a better digital piano for the next few years smile

During my search of piano, I've tried Casio PX-100 and PX-300; I think the sound of Casio as fojae mention are not as good as Roland or Yamaha.

A few points about Yamaha (which I have struggled to make a decision for the last few weeks).

Yamaha (no matter home digital piano or stage piano)
- has a heavier action
- has a brighter tone

Roland
- has a lighter action which in most opinions(all the sales person in different music store in Australia who play piano for years) are more close to a real grand piano
- has a more mellow/soft/european sound compared to Yamaha

In my opinion, I believe Yamaha and Roland both are top of the range equipment, so either way, you won't go wrong and should be happy with the purchase. If your kids still play piano in the next few years, maybe you should consider by a real acoustic piano as no digital piano can give you all the control/actions/feels/sounds as a proper acoustic piano.

However, I think if you can spare the few bucks (believe me, I use my credit card to pay for my ~$2000 Roland HP103 and I have no more cash than you), get a home digital piano instead of the stage piano will be better for your kids, as it has the proper foot pedals which may motivate them to get the piano course more seriously. Also, the stage piano (such as Yamaha P60, Casio or even Roland) do not always come with speaker or come with a "not-so-good-quality" speaker, which may not give you the ideal sounds.

As I am an adult beginner who "just" purchase a digital piano, my comments may be wrong, you should always go to the local store and listen the piano and let your kids help making the final decision.

Cheers
Wallace

#686543 - 11/08/04 04:32 PM Re: digital pianos  
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I am 13 years old and last christmas i got the Yamaha 223 i think it is , and its very good maybe too pricey though.


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#686544 - 11/10/04 12:21 AM Re: digital pianos  
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The PX-100 is amazingly light. The price is very attractive even with the stand. For some reason I feel a regular home stand invites more serious learning/playing than a stage stand. The slim profile takes up very little space in my bedroom and the touch ( in my opinion ) is better than many digitals costing much more. I paid 6 times the price for a Korg digital many years ago and the graded hammer action is a big improvement over the older digital's simple weighted actions.

On the other hand the speakers are quite weak. Certain parts of the plastic case tend to buzz at certain notes even at not so loud volume. The grandpiano 1 is stereo. The others sound like mono to me though they are decent and fun.

So far I feel that the touch, weight, profile and the convenience of built-in speakers are well worth the cost. One can always add a midi module and external amplified speakers.

#686545 - 11/11/04 02:26 PM Re: digital pianos  
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I have a Yahama P120. It's a very good instrument. I prefer having a stage piano to one that's built into a case. I had to by the Z-stand and the second pedal separately, but the keyboard cost me just under $1,000. The store where I bought it was listing it for $1,299. When I showed them I could get it on the Internet for $999, they matched the price!


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#686546 - 11/16/04 06:33 PM Re: digital pianos  
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i suggest you get the Valdesta. they are selling it online at wwbw.com, and it's under 1 grand ranging from $800-$1000. it's the cheapest digital piano you can get. i agree w/ Wallace. the stage pianos aren't as natural as the digital ones, b/c they lack some of the qualites that digitals and naturals have, such as foot pedals and the acoustic sound, needed for the serious player. you can get it if you're desperate, though. and wallace, i somewhat disagree with you about the Clavinovas. right now i don't have the suitable funds nor enviromental means to get an acoustic piano. so i'mma be content with my digital for the next few years, and have access to an 'organic' piano, mind you. besides, i can always go to my local music building to play an acoustic piano.

#686547 - 11/16/04 11:05 PM Re: digital pianos  
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I'm pretty hot on the Yamaha P series (I'm using a P-120 in my studio). They feel good and sound good.


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