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What is the diffrence beetween 'waterfall' keys and hammer action keys? #683517 06/15/05 01:16 PM
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I never played a 'waterfall' key piano/organ and I would like to know how it works...

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Re: What is the diffrence beetween 'waterfall' keys and hammer action keys? #683518 06/15/05 02:07 PM
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Rather than the standard white key on a piano which has a lip, waterfall keys are rounded and without a lip.


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Re: What is the diffrence beetween 'waterfall' keys and hammer action keys? #683519 06/15/05 02:59 PM
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I would strongly dissuade ANYONE from getting a piano with "waterfall" or bevelled white keys! It's absolutely awful to play these pianos as your fingers have less of a surface area on which to play ... the fingers literally "fall" off the keys.

When you are used to a white key being a certain length, the 3-5 mm of length that are subtracted from the white keys on a "waterfall" keyed piano have the effect of causing the pianist GREAT frustration and I believe your controll of dynamic range is also, consequently, greatly limited.

If you tend to "stroke" the white keys at times -- and I think most intermediate and better players do this for expression and putting their whole body into a piece -- then you will be driven crazy by the waterfall feature. If you don't know if you "stroke" the keys or at least at times do a far reach that allows your finger to barely grab the END of a white key, then carefully watch (or have someone watch you play) yourself play for 2 minutes. I guarantee you will notice why a white key is supposed to be as long as it is with the standard "lip" that Christopher described above.

My sister has one of these pianos. I really enjoy playing the piano ... but I simply HATE playing hers b/c of that feature. So, I rarely, if ever, play her piano during the week each year I visit her (out of state).

I will admit that my sister is quite a good piano player (she was a music minor in college and is a piano teacher to about 10 kids) and doesn't seem to be bothered by her piano. I will accept that I am more precise and technical about things than compared to a lot of people, but, I personally think she has a brain-block somewhere to be playing that mess and also be teaching on it. She has a much greater tolerance for inferiority in that area of her piano. I would scrap that piano in an instant! Objectively, I think anyone would advise you to get a traditional "lipped" white key piano.

STAY AWAY FROM THESE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: What is the diffrence beetween 'waterfall' keys and hammer action keys? #683520 06/19/05 04:46 PM
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Thank you GreatLakes and Christorpher...

Re: What is the diffrence beetween 'waterfall' keys and hammer action keys? #683521 06/20/05 12:52 PM
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You're welcome.

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Re: What is the diffrence beetween 'waterfall' keys and hammer action keys? #683522 06/20/05 01:11 PM
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ditto, your welcome!


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Re: What is the diffrence beetween 'waterfall' keys and hammer action keys? #683523 07/02/05 01:41 PM
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It's personal preference. If you're into organ playing and want to do the cool tricks that organ players do, you need the waterfall keys.


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Re: What is the diffrence beetween 'waterfall' keys and hammer action keys? #683524 07/15/05 02:34 PM
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Gregjazz,

I've never played the organ nor watched anyone play it w/ attention to the detail of what they are doing w/ the keys. What "tricks" are you referring to and how do waterfall keys help?

With "waterfall" keys, in addition to what I mentioned above about expression sacrifice, I'd say my reach is two keys fewer b/c of the smaller surface area on which to strike the key. Doesn't that sacrifice in reach drive an organist nuts?

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