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Best speakers to reproduce piano sound? #660004
09/12/06 01:14 PM
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I recently listened nice top brand speakers like B&W and Dynaudio. Non of them sounds like a real piano. But sounds of different acoustic instruments such as a guitar, violin and cello were AWESOME! My friend who is a serious audiophile told me. The sound of piano is the hardest instrument to reproduce, and on the contrary, guitars are easiest. The strange thing is they were worse than sound from my $25 Sennheiser headphone that I use for playing my digital piano. My guess is that headphones are generally better than speakers to reproduce piano sound. Do you guys have any idea?


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Re: Best speakers to reproduce piano sound? #660005
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Piano makes a big, complex sound, the room itself becomes part of the instrument. Speakers are directional and you need to have them pointing exactly the right way at you and not move in order to have any illusion of a 'natural' sound. Headphones at least reduce the effect of your movement and surround you with sound.
Guitars may be easier to reproduce, though if you ask a guitarist you will probably get the same reaction - it doesn't sound like a real guitar. :-)

Martin

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Bosendorfer make speakers especially to replicate piano sound.

Re: Best speakers to reproduce piano sound? #660007
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What do you think it would be like, if they made 'sound boxes' with a sound board were you place your speakers, and would vibrate so to acousticaly simulate the REAL reverb of a piano!

How does that sound?


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Re: Best speakers to reproduce piano sound? #660008
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Just looked up the Bosendorfer site. Impressive specs, frequency response 25 - 27,000 Hz, I would like to hear them.
I wonder if Bosendorfer sound might be easier to reproduce than a Steinway sound..

yiss, how many people would buy speakers the size of a piano? :-) Nice idea though.

Re: Best speakers to reproduce piano sound? #660009
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Originally posted by jowook:
I recently listened nice top brand speakers like B&W and Dynaudio. Non of them sounds like a real piano. But sounds of different acoustic instruments such as a guitar, violin and cello were AWESOME! My friend who is a serious audiophile told me. The sound of piano is the hardest instrument to reproduce, and on the contrary, guitars are easiest. The strange thing is they were worse than sound from my $25 Sennheiser headphone that I use for playing my digital piano. My guess is that headphones are generally better than speakers to reproduce piano sound. Do you guys have any idea?
Not to be flip, but there is no “best” speaker, as there is no singular “best” piano. We all perceive sounds differently and your assessment of what are accurate piano sounds is likely to be very different than some else’s.
B&W and Dynaudio are among the finest speakers made in the world. They are reference quality equipment in major recording studios, so I would seriously doubt that they are the source of your disappointment.
Bear in mind, of course, that the speakers in an audio system are only one part of a complex chain of components, each of which has a bearing on the audio quality. If you are in the market to compare speakers, you need to start with a reference quality CD of piano music. Studio recordings will sound very different than live performances and once you overcome that first hurdle of finding the right source, you’ll have to take into account the effect of pre-amps, amps, speaker cable, interconnects, speaker placement, acoustic room conditions, etc., etc., etc.,. If your audition didn't sound like a piano, then it could be any and all of the above.
But, that's my opinion as an amateur audiophile. Raising this question in forums specifically dedicated to audio and video reproduction will yield answers from those for more expert than I.

Good luck
Joel


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Re: Best speakers to reproduce piano sound? #660010
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I won't say guitar is the easiest to reproduce smile (I am a guitar player).

I have a nice tube hi-fi system at home and the piano sounds are very real (to me). And I don't think pianos are any more dififuclt to reproduce than other instruments (well except for that fact taht it goes lower than a typical instruments). Almost any of the Diana Krall CD (which is what I use to test sound system) has very well recorded piano sounds. And it sounds real to me.

The key is that you need to have good components all around. The speakers on my system is probably the cheapest component. CD player/trasnport and the amp will make more difference in sound than the speaker.

What CD did you use to test the piano sound and what speakers/CD player/Amp did you use? Not all B+W speakers are great, espcially if it is matched to a wrong amp.

Re: Best speakers to reproduce piano sound? #660011
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These speakers do a an incredible job reproducing a piano and other instruments as well.

www.vmpsaudio.com

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