Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.5 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
What's Hot!!
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
(125ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Piano Buyer Guide
Piano Buyer Fall 2017
Who's Online Now
50 registered members (BachToTheFuture, David B, AndyP, Bambers, beeboss, 9 invisible), 1,753 guests, and 3 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords & Scales
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#655743 - 08/13/05 08:06 PM 17 year old composer, self-taught, original, slightly minimal, please critque  
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 5
Procyon Offline
Junior Member
Procyon  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: May 2005
Posts: 5
Hello everyone!

I have been a member at piano world for a few years now but had to keep changing names because of lost passwords and new email addresses.

Anyway, I am 17 now and I started composing when I was about 10 or so on a digital synth. Since then, I've written a lot of music and I've finished 6 "albums" (collection of compositions). I assume I've written over 600 works, which probably isn't that much considering 85% of them were terrible. But anyway...

I might compare myself to Erik Satie in the sense that he is very original and he puts a lot of emphasis on a beautiful melody. My form is not very developmental, but at the same it isn't quite as minimal as John Adams or anything. I find my style to be very unique because I have not heard somebody that is similar to me. My teacher struggles with comparisons anyway, so I have not gotten many suggestions from him.

I write very tonal works to serial works. I also write free atonal music. I write an equal amount of piano solos and piano driven ensembles.

I only know 3 scales. C maj, A min, F min. I do not have any formal knowledge. I have never studied music theory in the slightest. My piano teacher is working on that problem of mine. I also do not ever write with scales or theory in mind. It all just flows. He'll ask me what key it is and I'll say, "Hmm, I don't know". Or if he askes me why I used a certain chord, I'll say, "I don't know what that chord is".

Please critique 2 pieces. One is a piano driven ensemble and the other is a demo from a piano solo.

Thank you!


http://www.atomic-design.com/_stuff/JosephMalicke-Fingernails.mid
http://www.atomic-design.com/_stuff/JosephMalicke-Collages.mid

#655744 - 08/13/05 08:23 PM Re: 17 year old composer, self-taught, original, slightly minimal, please critque  
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 67
pagnini Offline
Full Member
pagnini  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 67
What's with the long silence at the end of the second one?


"I wish the government would put a tax on pianos for the incompetent."
#655745 - 08/13/05 08:26 PM Re: 17 year old composer, self-taught, original, slightly minimal, please critque  
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 5
Procyon Offline
Junior Member
Procyon  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: May 2005
Posts: 5
Quote
Originally posted by pagnini:
What's with the long silence at the end of the second one?
Oh, the demo should stop at 1:28. Whenever I export to a MIDI I always get like 100 bars of blank space, meaning I get about a minute to a minute of half of silence. Sorry about that!

#655746 - 08/13/05 08:59 PM Re: 17 year old composer, self-taught, original, slightly minimal, please critque  
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 67
pagnini Offline
Full Member
pagnini  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 67
oh. I was just wondering. Hmm, that's kind of weird though.


"I wish the government would put a tax on pianos for the incompetent."
#655747 - 08/13/05 09:00 PM Re: 17 year old composer, self-taught, original, slightly minimal, please critque  
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 5
Procyon Offline
Junior Member
Procyon  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: May 2005
Posts: 5
Quote
Originally posted by pagnini:
oh. I was just wondering. Hmm, that's kind of weird though.
Any comments on the piece? eek

#655748 - 08/13/05 09:50 PM Re: 17 year old composer, self-taught, original, slightly minimal, please critque  
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 67
pagnini Offline
Full Member
pagnini  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 67
sorry. There some very nice melody. I like that. There are these sections, each with there nice melody. However there is, as you said, little development. It seems as the song isn't going anywhere, just going from one phrase to the next. That get's kind of boring after a while.

Edit: I'm probably not the most qualified to critique your pieces (ok more like almost sure I'm not the most qualified). I think you've still gone really far as a composer, so keep working at it.


"I wish the government would put a tax on pianos for the incompetent."
#655749 - 08/13/05 09:57 PM Re: 17 year old composer, self-taught, original, slightly minimal, please critque  
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 67
pagnini Offline
Full Member
pagnini  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 67
Have you ever listened to Yanni. That's probably the closet comparison to you that I can think of.


"I wish the government would put a tax on pianos for the incompetent."
#655750 - 08/17/05 09:41 AM Re: 17 year old composer, self-taught, original, slightly minimal, please critque  
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 537
***musical princess*** Offline
500 Post Club Member
***musical princess***  Offline
500 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 537
Newcastle, England
Not too sure about the repetitive chord bit at the end of the first one but apart from that i loved it!! It reminded me very much of Michael Nymann. Similar style.

I think musically speaking the second one was better (just my opinion though). I really liked this one. I don't know why but i pictured myself sitting by a big real log fire looking out the window and seeing it snowing and feelinig all cosy. I thought this was an excellent piece. I'd love to hear some more if you have any. Well done!!!!

Caroline

x


x Caroline x
#655751 - 08/17/05 09:43 AM Re: 17 year old composer, self-taught, original, slightly minimal, please critque  
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 537
***musical princess*** Offline
500 Post Club Member
***musical princess***  Offline
500 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 537
Newcastle, England
I just listened to the second one again and i *really* love the beginning! You've got some really good stuff in there.

x


x Caroline x
#655752 - 08/19/05 06:18 PM Re: 17 year old composer, self-taught, original, slightly minimal, please critque  
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 59
Tezzie Offline
Full Member
Tezzie  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 59
London, UK
Pretty good! I think the second one was better overall, it was very, very nice.
The intro on the second one is way cool though, I like that! I think you're doing pretty well, I'm pretty impressed as you've never had formal musical training before. Great stuff!


"Without a piano I don't know how to stand, don't know what to do with my hands."
- Norah Jones

Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World)
our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, Digital Piano Dolly, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.


Free Shipping* on Jansen Artist Piano Benches, Cocoweb Piano Lamps, Hidrau Hydraulic Piano Benches
(*free shipping within contiguous U.S. only)
(ad)
Pearl River & Ritmuller
Ritmuller Pianos
(ad)
Pianoteq
PianoTeq 6 Out now
ad
Pierce Piano Atlas


New Topics - Multiple Forums
Yamaha CLP-685 brief impressions
by Osho. 11/21/17 01:02 AM
Counting clients' cash
by Candywoman. 11/21/17 01:01 AM
non western instruments in the menu ?
by huaidongxi. 11/21/17 12:48 AM
Least happy composer
by pianoloverus. 11/20/17 06:59 PM
Check out this performance of Kapustin's Op. 40, No. 3!
by project.mainstream. 11/20/17 05:19 PM
Forum Statistics
Forums44
Topics182,863
Posts2,673,237
Members89,166
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
(ad)
Accu-Tuner
Sanderson Accu-Tuner
Check It Out!
There's a lot more to Piano World than just the forums.
Click Here to
Explore The Rest of Piano World!!
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers


 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2017 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0