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#654998 - 05/29/07 10:18 AM Translated Opera libretti !!  
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Have you ever attended "Le Nozze di Figaro" sung in English? or French?...etc. confused
Well, I've heard it in Arabic (No Kidding!)what's worse, I was not admitted to leave the theatre cursing

Translating opera libretti is a fashion here in Egypt, and I'm not sure if it is so elsewhere..anyways, they argue that it's one way of luring more audience, to introduce this "fine art" to the masses!

But doesn't that ruin the entire opera? I believe diction and notes are one entity,fused together,and of course the translated libretti are subject to shifting syllables and changing words.

I would very much appreciate all your comments upon the topic.... smile
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Sarah

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#654999 - 05/29/07 07:12 PM Re: Translated Opera libretti !!  
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I've often heard some of the Italian operas translated into english and I just don't think it sounds right, the flow changes completely... as for arabic....??? confused ???..... I can only imagine. It could be very interesting though smile


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#655000 - 05/30/07 08:48 AM Re: Translated Opera libretti !!  
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Thanks PerformingYak, so sweet of you to reply.

Well,those Arabic performances were far from "interesting"...as you can picture soloists stifling with words and the music distorted.


Sarah

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#655001 - 05/30/07 08:57 AM Re: Translated Opera libretti !!  
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What was the general reaction of the crowd? Do you think most people enjoyed it?

Did it attract different crowds, or was it really just the same people who would go and hear it in Italian anyway?


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#655002 - 05/30/07 09:20 AM Re: Translated Opera libretti !!  
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I usually read the libretto before attending an opera,but of course not all people have time to do that.So, complementary to translating liberetti is trying to read the synopsis in pamphlets distributed before the show,so you can cope up with the dramatic events.

Any other suggestions?


Sarah

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#655003 - 05/30/07 09:36 AM Re: Translated Opera libretti !!  
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In many North American opera houses, the brief trend for singing operas in English has largely been reversed by the incorporation into the opera house of super-titles. That is, translations in English of the text that is sung in the original language are projected on a screen above the stage. Those who don't know the opera can follow the translation; those who do, needn't bother. These super-titles are no more distracting, to my mind, than watching a movie with sub-titles; perhaps even less distracting since the titles are above the stage.

It seems to be a reasonable solution to the quest for more patrons without compromising the original. I fully agree that most of the great opera composers had a knowledge of how music and text were inextricably bound together; to destroy that bond by changing the language is more that just artistic licence; it is counter-productive.

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#655004 - 05/30/07 09:36 AM Re: Translated Opera libretti !!  
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Pianojerome: there were very few in these translated performances.It's worth mentioning that opera Aida is performed every year in Italian...the hall is always complete!
so you can see how people shrink from such futile attempts. eek

Thank you for pointing that out smile


Sarah

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#655005 - 05/30/07 09:48 AM Re: Translated Opera libretti !!  
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I totally agree with you BruceD!
each year opera Aida (they love that one in Egypt) is performed with super-titles...I like it that way, especially when I book my tickets earlier and take front seats thumb ...so I even don't take notice of the screen.

Next month they'll be showing Verdi's
La Traviata, looking forward to the super-titles wink

Thanks a lot! all your comments are very illuminating.


Sarah

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#655006 - 06/16/07 12:22 PM Re: Translated Opera libretti !!  
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