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Converting an Acoustic Piano to a Digital #654355
11/01/08 07:59 PM
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Monterrey, Mexico
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I would like to know where to get instructions to convert an old baby grand piano into a digital. We have purchased a Yamaha keyboard with the correct dimensions.

I am very attached to the cabinet since I have played on it for 50 years. I cannot afford to have the piano completely rebuilt, and will be satisfied with the digital keyboard and amplifier.

If there is a book or a web site with the information, please let me know. And thanks a lot. Brenda A

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Re: Converting an Acoustic Piano to a Digital #654356
11/01/08 10:41 PM
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Brenda
Welcome to the forum. PianoDisc.com has a product called MagicStar. It is a MIDI retrofit. A Record strip is placed under the keys and it transmits key movement including velocity and duration, converts to MIDI data and the onboard Sound card plays any of the 128 MIDI tones you select or some of its own Presets if you prefer. I've installed two and they work well. They have MIDI Out also for a computer interface if you like.
regards
Mike


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Re: Converting an Acoustic Piano to a Digital #654357
11/02/08 08:52 AM
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We may not be understanding your question.

If you want to put a standard keyboard into the action cavity, you might want to have a local tech. remove the action for you. Is that what you are doing?


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Re: Converting an Acoustic Piano to a Digital #654358
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To build in a digital into the action bay of an acoustic grand is always a one off custom job that will likely require some fine cabinetry work to finish off. You will likely need to drill a hole in the rear of the keybed to run the power cord. You will likely need to fashion some king of on/off switch if the keyboard one is obscured by the piano cabinet. I have actually seen one installation where a sustain pedal was put into the original pedal lyre as well. The keyboard speakers may be obscured by the cabinet as well. If the keyboard has a line out, you may want/need to mount an external speaker under the piano for best sound. Best of luck on this project.


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Re: Converting an Acoustic Piano to a Digital #654359
11/02/08 09:49 PM
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I just re-read the post, sorry overlooked the Yamaha keyboard part of it.
Churches have started doing the same. I have one looking for a grand shell. Marvelous idea.
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mike


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Re: Converting an Acoustic Piano to a Digital #654360
11/03/08 08:47 PM
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Marvelous idea.
Simply wonderful...

Re: Converting an Acoustic Piano to a Digital #654361
11/03/08 10:21 PM
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Re: Converting an Acoustic Piano to a Digital #654362
11/04/08 12:35 AM
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A Pretend Grand Piano. What a waste of space. A lot of churches are only facades, so I guess it's appropriate.


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Re: Converting an Acoustic Piano to a Digital #654363
11/04/08 12:50 AM
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Utilization of space isn't the only parameter churches place for the arrangement of instruments/furniture at their altars. Many homeowners do the same for aesthetic reasons and I'll bet you are quite happy to service those PSO's, whether they meet your notions of practicality or not. I sense your dissaproval goes beyond 25 sq ft of space a grand cabinet covers in front of the faithful.
Mike


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Re: Converting an Acoustic Piano to a Digital #654364
11/04/08 01:26 AM
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May I rephrase. Some churches, and I don't restrict the phrase to just Christianity

My ancestors started the first church in Dover NH and the the other half is Southern Baptist. I believe in Christ, I just don't interpret the bible the way many today do. I believe the golden calf is prevelent in some churches if not many. That is why I think spending money on appearance without substance, is wasteful. If you really want to return something to the parishoners. Buy them a really good grand piano. After all, you are playing this music for the lord. Make it beautiful. Keyboards don't cut it in my opinion. They are great for traveling but in a hall there is not much that is prettier than a piano.
Just my opinion. I wasn't trying to trash the faithful. Tammy Faye Baker and her facial facade maybe.


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Re: Converting an Acoustic Piano to a Digital #654365
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perhaps this site will be of interest to you..
http://www.grandpianorentals.com

Re: Converting an Acoustic Piano to a Digital #654366
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"They are great for traveling but in a hall there is not much that is prettier than a piano."


It appears they are trying to achieve an aesthetically appealing appearance with that grand shell. Do digital organs work for you or do they need to be pipes? Rodgers and Allen build and install digitals all the time. Digital pianos can have advantages over acousticals, especially in sound reinforcement. We don't really know what budget this church has. I would gladly recommend an S&S D for every church in Monterrey but is that practical?
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Re: Converting an Acoustic Piano to a Digital #654367
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Brenda,

No need to drill any holes in the key bed, just remove the left pedal assembly that shifts the action sideways. Big hole there already. You might want to build a plywood box to store the wooden action in, just in case someone wants to return the instrument to its original use. Any other parts removed can be stored in the same labeled box.

Mike,

I have a 6 ft. grand here you can have for free; purchased from Harrods in London 1920’s or so…….just don’t know how to get it to you cheaply. Do you know of anyone here that is travelling your way? It is one of those grand’s that instead of the 3 big legs, it has the smaller 6 legs that are attached with a stabilizer bar (can’t remember the name of the cabinet style….almost a Duncan Fife revival)…….mahogany with the light coloured wood pin stripe inlay all around the trim edges………….

The grand rental place at one dollar per mile outside of Lansing Michigan would make that a very expensive shell indeed…………


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Re: Converting an Acoustic Piano to a Digital #654368
11/04/08 08:33 PM
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Dan
Thank-you for the offer. I've had a business model for ten years now regarding old pianos, unfortunately never placed in action. I hate hauling them to the landfill. There are a lot of recyclables within them but my square footage doesn't allow me to collect them until I get it going.

Sorry to hi-jack the thread, Brenda so I'll start another in a day or so.
Regards
Mike


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i think it's cheaper to just buy a 2nd digital piano n use it as it is, no need hassle, not tools need, just plug n play


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