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Re: FOR TECHNICIANS: real people versus imaginary ones #646219
11/25/08 05:29 PM
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Thanks Diane! At least you use your first name anyway! U not such a chicken after all! laugh

Ron A: Hehehe, I just could NOT resist!!! laugh


Jerry Groot RPT
Piano Technicians Guild
Grand Rapids, Michigan
www.grootpiano.com

We love to play BF2.
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Re: FOR TECHNICIANS: real people versus imaginary ones #646220
11/25/08 06:37 PM
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I am not a tech, but with the assistance of an excellent tech we were able to rescue a 1953 Kohler and Campbell spinet/console from becoming junk. It has a compressed direct action and a beautiful tone for a "cookie cutter" piano.

This piano has been in the family since new, my wife's mother got it as a teen, and my wife and I have had it for 28 years. We moved and put it into storage, supposedly humidity controlled and rodent free. Guess what? It wasn't. Five years of rodents. It broke our hearts.

Ron White of Festus, Missouri came to our rescue. He came and assessed the damage, and informed me on how to clean it out and prepare it for him . I disassembled it and did the grossest work you could ever imagine clearing the infestation. My wife and I scrubbed every inch of the piano, including the keys. We moved it into the house to let it acclimate for right at a month.

Ron came and replaced broken four bands and regulated it with new felts under the keys and began to tune. Fortunately the rodents had not chewed much. Also, if this had been a drop action all would have been hopeless, but the 8" compressed direct-blow action came out wonderfully balanced. He was able to bring it to A-399 he said, very carefully and patiently working it. He tuned a great deal by ear, working up and down the board, and really made it sound fantastic. He said that we could likely bring it to A-440 with about four more tunings, but with the age he suggested to consider just keeping it in tune with itself at A-399 and to touch it up in three months. It has a beautiful, warm tone,is mechanically quiet, and my wife found the touch to be fantastic. Its home guys! Its home!

I had to share my experience. We did the dirty work, but Ron it a musical instrument again. For those trying to get free advice, call your tuner and give him his due. He is worth his weight in gold as far as I am concerned, and it feels so good to have the piano that played both of my babies to sleep back where it belongs.

To the techs, I lift a glass. You are the finest!


A musical instrument fanatic.
Re: FOR TECHNICIANS: real people versus imaginary ones #646221
11/25/08 06:46 PM
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Quote
Originally posted by Jerry Groot RPT:
Thanks Diane! At least you use your first name anyway! U not such a chicken after all! laugh
Hey Jerry, my real name is Cruella DeVil! If you ever come near my piano with scratching tools, you'll see her! laugh

Jerry, isn't your real name "Geraldine"! ha Brings out your feminine side! laugh Sorry, couldn't resist!


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Re: FOR TECHNICIANS: real people versus imaginary ones #646222
11/25/08 08:12 PM
11/25/08 08:12 PM
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Grand Rapids Michigan
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I should have known that you would never forget that story!!!!!! I just knew it was a matter of time! Give me your address and I'll be right there with a hand full of dremel's, awl's, screw drivers and drills!!!!


Jerry Groot RPT
Piano Technicians Guild
Grand Rapids, Michigan
www.grootpiano.com

We love to play BF2.
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Re: FOR TECHNICIANS: real people versus imaginary ones #646223
11/25/08 11:34 PM
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BDB that pocket protector makes ALL of us look bad...

Re: FOR TECHNICIANS: real people versus imaginary ones #646224
11/26/08 12:14 AM
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That was not a pocket protector; it was a name tag. The red card in my pocket was my security pass. I agree, it makes me look nerdish. Truth in advertising.


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Re: FOR TECHNICIANS: real people versus imaginary ones #646225
11/26/08 01:12 AM
11/26/08 01:12 AM
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Don't knock 'em till you try 'em!

http://www.pocketprotectors.com/


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Re: FOR TECHNICIANS: real people versus imaginary ones #646226
11/27/08 09:06 AM
11/27/08 09:06 AM
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Strong, Maine
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" If I don't care for or about a subject, I go to others. I especially don't get involved with something I don't have any experience or expertise with." Bill Bremmer

Although it was quite a ways back in the thread (end of page #1), I couldn't agree more. I've done this work for longer than I care to admit, but there are some areas that I avoid because I just don't deal enough with the subject, or my eyes start to glaze over.

The esoterica of alternate temperaments and octave stretch is one area that I read about, but avoid any comments like the plague. I admire folks who can get into that, and am in absolute awe of the fancy mathematics invoked in some of the discussions, but I'll have to admit that it's a bit hard for me to make any sense of it through the film that drops over my eyes.

BTW "Rouge Tooner" sure sounds like Jurgen, or Sam Casey, or Jerry Groot. Anyone want to fess up?


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Re: FOR TECHNICIANS: real people versus imaginary ones #646227
11/27/08 09:23 AM
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Ain't me. I do all my sarcasm in person.

I agree about the "filagreed" temperments. All very lovely, brilliant and wonderful but nothing that would have any market value to me.

(HEADS UP! INCOMING BREMMER!! TAKE COVER!!)

Re: FOR TECHNICIANS: real people versus imaginary ones #646228
11/27/08 09:30 AM
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Tis true BDB. Nerdism is the fatal disease of the Tooner. Guilty as charged.

Re: FOR TECHNICIANS: real people versus imaginary ones #646229
11/27/08 11:59 AM
11/27/08 11:59 AM
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Grand Rapids Michigan
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Ain't me! I'm the REAL me! Just look at my avatar!
The monkey man!


Jerry Groot RPT
Piano Technicians Guild
Grand Rapids, Michigan
www.grootpiano.com

We love to play BF2.
Re: FOR TECHNICIANS: real people versus imaginary ones #646230
11/27/08 12:16 PM
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Sorry


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Re: FOR TECHNICIANS: real people versus imaginary ones #646231
11/28/08 10:24 PM
11/28/08 10:24 PM
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Formal logic is a set of rules for making deductions that seem self evident. For example: The meaning and value of ten commandments will not change based on who declares it. There could be just as equal amount of fake technicians and dealers vs. fake members who use this forum.

Use your experience, logic and common sense when participating in any conversation, without discriminating too much.


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Re: FOR TECHNICIANS: real people versus imaginary ones #646232
11/29/08 12:43 AM
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Western Canada
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Quote
Originally posted by Jerry Groot RPT:
Give me your address and I'll be right there with a hand full of dremel's, awl's, screw drivers and drills!!!!
See, it's because of threats like that Jerry that some of us want to stay anonymous! But to show you I'm not afraid of your threats, below zero you will find my address! laugh

Diane Jekyll/Cruella DeVil Hyde
Registered Piano Technician (WannaBE)
0 Invisible Street North
USA's Attic, Way North of the Border
CAN ADA

[url= http://www.youwillneverfindme/4/I\'M/in/the/WITNESSprotection/PROGRAM][/url]

Phone number: (888)FRE-ZING

AND, I approve this message! laugh

There was a point to this, but I forgot what it was! laugh


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Re: FOR TECHNICIANS: real people versus imaginary ones #646233
11/30/08 11:23 AM
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I can't WAIT to see your piano Diane!!!!! :t: laugh whome


Jerry Groot RPT
Piano Technicians Guild
Grand Rapids, Michigan
www.grootpiano.com

We love to play BF2.
Re: FOR TECHNICIANS: real people versus imaginary ones #646234
11/30/08 12:39 PM
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I read somewhere, can't remember at the moment, Jerry is providing a free hostel for PTG associates, members, guests AND their pets at this year's convention in Grand Rapids. Drinks on the HOUSE!

Re: FOR TECHNICIANS: real people versus imaginary ones #646235
11/30/08 01:59 PM
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Drinks on the HOUSE!
He has a rooftop bar?


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Re: FOR TECHNICIANS: real people versus imaginary ones #646236
11/30/08 02:11 PM
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What? All you cheapskates trying to get a free ride are ya??? :p

The only roof top I have, has reindeer prints on it already! I think Santa's window peeking!


Jerry Groot RPT
Piano Technicians Guild
Grand Rapids, Michigan
www.grootpiano.com

We love to play BF2.
Re: FOR TECHNICIANS: real people versus imaginary ones #646237
12/02/08 10:38 AM
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Quote
Originally posted by Jerry Groot RPT:
I can't WAIT to see your piano Diane!!!!! :t: laugh whome
Hey Jerry, My piano is already "seeing" a technician! But when they break up, I'll give you a call! laugh


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Re: FOR TECHNICIANS: real people versus imaginary ones #646238
12/02/08 06:46 PM
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Chicken!!! laugh


Jerry Groot RPT
Piano Technicians Guild
Grand Rapids, Michigan
www.grootpiano.com

We love to play BF2.
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