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Re: Strangest place or circumstance #631598
10/13/08 08:36 AM
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I think I posted this before somewhere else but, for those of you that haven't seen it..... Rod reminded me of it.

One day, my dad went to this ladies house, I wasn't old enough to come along, dangitall...!! She opened up the door stark naked. He was slightly shall we say, rattled? But, retained his composure and slight smile as he put it. She said, you don't mind if I run around the house nude do you? I hate wearing clothing in my own home while I work. To which he responded joyfully, NOOO NOT AT ALL!!!! So, the entire time he was tuning, she was flitting about the home to and fro, room to room doing her thing while he did his.

I asked him if he broke any wires being distracted. He said no but, I was having a slight problem with my hammer shank.

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Re: Strangest place or circumstance #631599
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too bad there isn't a camera cellphone during those times...

be careful of spiderwoman ok

btw what happen to the hammer shank?
expand? crooked?


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Re: Strangest place or circumstance #631600
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“btw what happen to the hammer shank?
expand? crooked?”

I think the G string got in the way…….


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Re: Strangest place or circumstance #631601
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Folks ask me if I have women show up at the door in their nighties and I can honestly answer, "yes." However the women are usually in the 80's and without teeth and the loose bathrobe and nightgown the uniform of preference. Or the average house frau, wrapped tightly in her pink robe, hair askew, bleary eyed and saying, "I FORGOT you were coming today!"

I've only had one or two real vixens with near to nothing on, or walking about in bikinis. I'm as "male" as the next guy but this stuff does not interest me. Where's the piano, when was it tuned last, do you have any sticking keys, other problems, OK, I'm off to work.

Most women I deal with, (and most of my customers are women) really want to be taken seriously or just talked to about real things in life. Of course a strange man in the house is provoking on lots of levels. But I try to be everybody's favorite brother in law or uncle and dicey situations can be defused easily. I'm a bleeding capitalist. I want my earnings and on to the next one.

Re: Strangest place or circumstance #631602
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reminder: ptg chastity belt must be worn for all beginner tuner, unless attain black belt level qualifiy by jerry smile


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Re: Strangest place or circumstance #631603
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Sam reminds me of one more story..

As I left the house after the tuning, the lady followed me outside and we chatted. Beautiful sunny day. She was still in her bathrobe. She was a pretty gal, my age at the time, probably 30 or so.

Her child of about 4 or so, also followed her outside. Out of the clear blue, he grabbed the front of her bathroom and yanked it wide open! Being the gentlemen that I am, I didn't look but the peripheral vision still worked... shocked


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Re: Strangest place or circumstance #631604
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jerry, you have lots of interesting encounters, may we attach a satelite webcam on you so that we won't miss any ??


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Re: Strangest place or circumstance #631605
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I just remembered another one: I have a customer that runs a fishing resort. At one time she had 5 pianos on the place. One of her favorites, a Hamilton, was in the bait shop, right around the corner from the minnow tank.

Re: Strangest place or circumstance #631606
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I tuned a piano in a bowling alley once, during a tournament! Looooovely old upright! Someone had "refinished" it with naugahyde (cheap fake plastic "leather" for those of you in Anniheim)and buttons several years before. That was now cracked, buttons missing, cotton padding hanging out.

I was a pretty new tuner, but when I went back several hours later to check, it actually sounded pretty good!

Another time I tuned a piano in the middle of town and had to remove a LARGE mouse nest from under the keyboard. The owner and I were talking as I did so and he said, "Yep we do get mice in here from time to time, especially like now, in the Fall. Oh, look under the front door!"

I looked. There was a space less than 1/4" at the bottom of the door and I could see one VERY FLAT MOUSE squeezing his way into the room. When he got in, the owner stepped on him!


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Re: Strangest place or circumstance #631607
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Splat .... oozz


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Re: Strangest place or circumstance #631608
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Okay I'm in! Here's a story from my tech! Hope he doesn't mind me sharing one of his stories! laugh

He was over tuning my studio piano when I was looking to buy a Kawai grand piano and when I told him this, he said he just rescued a Kawai grand from a sleezy hotel where they were pouring drinks, cigarette butts, and you name it into it. He got to take it home for free. He gave it some TLC, (okay lots . . . okay major TLC) and sold it to a good home! Not my home, but a home!

He thinks they weren't even playing it but were using it for everything else but for music! laugh


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Re: Strangest place or circumstance #631609
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I once looked at a Baldwin D concert grand in a Tenderloin hotel in San Francisco. Sadly, I did not feel like rescuing it, though. It would have been too much trouble.

I think I related once about the first time I tuned for who is now probably the world's greatest pianist. I was stuck on the apron of the loading dock of the hall, with one corrugated steel door between me and the traffic, and another one between me and the orchestra winds, warming up for the New World Symphony.

I am reminded of that because I am back there tuning for him next week. I hope there will be more favorable circumstances. I will be going back and forth between two different shows that night, mercifully within walking distance.


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Re: Strangest place or circumstance #631610
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Originally posted by Diane...:
Okay I'm in! Here's a story from my tech! Hope he doesn't mind me sharing one of his stories! laugh

He was over tuning my studio piano when I was looking to buy a Kawai grand piano and when I told him this, he said he just rescued a Kawai grand from a sleezy hotel where they were pouring drinks, cigarette butts, and you name it into it. He got to take it home for free. He gave it some TLC, (okay lots . . . okay major TLC) and sold it to a good home! Not my home, but a home!

He thinks they weren't even playing it but were using it for everything else but for music! laugh
I have heard this before, I may know your technician.


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Re: Strangest place or circumstance #631611
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i was asked to tune at a theatre during a lighting focus session..time was a factor and they had none of it......so a light would turn on, be focused as techs shouted back and forth, then the light was turned off, then another on....again about 50-100 times (small venue) and the light was never focused where i needed to see... sigh (consequently bought a headlight on my way home)

also I tuned in a house where the living room had been taken over by every child's toy from a major retailer (princess theme) , it took them about 5 minutes to clear a path to the front door just to open it.... and then we unburried the piano, that is of course after the horses and teddy bears let me pass.


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Re: Strangest place or circumstance #631612
10/17/08 11:30 PM
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Yeah, I've had that many times too. That's maddening and very inconsiderate of them isn't it? What, they think we can see in the dark? I've asked politely before for them to leave them on the piano and hush up and if they didn't, I have walked out. Either turn on those lights and shut up or, bye bye... :-)


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Re: Strangest place or circumstance #631613
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A friend of mine got divorced and ended up living in his home made truck camper. He moved his large upright piano inside and asked me to tune it . Naturally the camper had a bit of a lean to it.

I accompany eurythmy classes a t a Waldorf school. On a monday morning, I started to play and a tinkle tinkle sound started to happen. the more I played the worse it got. the piano was locked and I had to wait until lunch to open it up to see what the heck was going on. On the floor of the piano was about 2 cups of wheat kernels. Some mouse was busy all weekend transporting wheat from one of the classrooms down the hall and storing it on top of the piano keys. I vacuumed it out and screwed some plywood to cover the access holes down at the bottom of the soundboard. I felt bad for the mouse.

Re: Strangest place or circumstance #631614
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Originally posted by Jerry Groot RPT:
Yeah, I've had that many times too. That's maddening and very inconsiderate of them isn't it? What, they think we can see in the dark? I've asked politely before for them to leave them on the piano and hush up and if they didn't, I have walked out. Either turn on those lights and shut up or, bye bye... :-)
As a theatre lighting technician, I can tell you that this would be a pretty big request to make. Lighting focus needs to happen in complete and total darkness, and more times than not, the light board is being programmed simultaneously. Meaning, a light left on the piano would be programmed in to every single cue, which could be in the hundreds. That would be a mess. Lighting focus usually happens about a week out from performance, so yes time is a huge issue. The tech's only get about one day in the theatre to focus the lights and that's it. They're just there to do their job just like you're there to do yours. Asking them to leave some lights on and/or be quiet is akin to them asking you to stop plunking on the piano so they can hear each other's orders. Do you think your job is more important than theirs?

I don't mean to come off as a jerk or anything, and I can even relate. Painting a set is pretty hard during a lighting focus as well. But the tech's are just there to do a job that they have a very limited time frame on. Just like you.

To conclude, it is not inconsiderate of the techs. It is inconsiderate of the THEATRE MANAGEMENT. They're the one's who scheduled the piano to be tuned during a lighting session. So you must first learn to blame the right people.

thank you.


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That is why the battery powered LED head lamps should be a part of every tech's tool kit.


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I once received an emergency phone call to tune pianos at one of our local colleges. They were having an event and learned that they needed an in-tune piano at the last minute. The event turned out to be a state hand bell choir conference. I had the pleasure of trying to tune a piano in a large auditorium amidst dozens of practicing hand bell choirs: a piano tuners nightmare! *Somehow* I got through it!

Another time I was called to tune a piano at J.Z. Knight's home in Yelm, Washington (J.Z. Knight channels "Ramtha" an ancient spirit from Atlantis, and runs the Ramtha School of Enlightenment). She had recently had her white Yamaha C3 Disklavier grand moved into the same room as her swimming pool! Her pet cockatiel kept landing on me while I worked - this was interesting at first but quite annoying after a while! One of the ladies who worked at the house asked me how long a piano lasts. I answered "if it's well cared for it will outlive you", she replied "We are going to live forever". The Ramtha followers apparently are trying to become immortals. I guess she should invest in a Steinway "the Instrument of Immortals!" Anyways at least I was able to sell J.Z. on a complete humidity control system for the piano. Now if they could just keep it plugged in! The humidity in there is a killer!


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Re: Strangest place or circumstance #631617
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Hi Charles,

Oh, it's okay, I understand. :-) You don't sound like you're coming off as a jerk. I hope I'm not either but, I think I did! :-) Let me explain a bit further.

First, I agree with you that you are not to blame because the management is the first place I go too. Or, I go to the person responsible for setting up the appointment with me.

Unfortunately, that's a major and important requirement of our job. Silence and lights.

However, sometimes, appointment times are just not related to the stage crew either. Other times, some people just walk on stage and stand around talking about nothing for 15 minutes thinking nothing of the noise levels. Others don't even try to be the least bit quiet. While, others do.

I make appointments for all tunings. I never just show up like some companies might. In these appointments, I request the room be empty and quiet for the time needed for the tuning. I usually set aside 2 hours in case something else is amiss. (I'm talking concert tunings here. 1 hour otherwise is plenty for me) When finished, I inform the proper party involved so they can continue on with whatever else needs to be done.

We really need total silence in order to hear it properly and of course, light to see.

Also, included in our time slot is trying to work around the musician's practice time, stage set up, lighting checks etc., so, I always try and work things out so can all have enough time to do our jobs.

If someone schedules something else over top of my time slot such as stage set up, lighting checks, bulb replacement, microphone checks, vacuuming, etc., we can't hear properly to tune and of course, can't see what we're doing either. It takes us twice as long sometimes then and costs the client more money too consequently.

After 40 years in the business I figure, if management can't understand the term quiet and alone then, I don't want to tune the piano because I want to do a good job, not a bad one. The person responsibly for the calendar is inconsiderate or doesn't understand the requirements of a technician or simply, does not care.

I always make that clear when I make the appointment in advance. If they choose to ignore it well, then, I have a choice to make. Either just do the best job I can (which often is what I choose to be the nice guy) which probably won't be a good tuning (depending on the noise levels) or I just simply walk off.

Walking off draws more attention as they want the piano tuned and proves the point. Either make the appointment and keep the time slot as required or, Jerry won't tune the piano. Why? Because I have a reputation to uphold and do not want the musician to say hey, that jerk did a lousy job when the musician and the rest of the staff will have no idea what took place to create that lousy job.

So, do I think my job is more important than yours? No! Of course not. But, I do think, reserving a certain appointment time slot is more important and that time slot needs to be honored. Otherwise, why make one? :-)

So, that's why I make the request politely first. It was supposed to be my reserved time slot.


Jerry Groot RPT
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Grand Rapids, Michigan
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