Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.7 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
What's Hot!!
New in our online store...
Tea Light
Tea Light with Frosted Music Staff Candle Holder


-------------------
European Tour for Piano Lovers
JOIN US FOR THE TOUR!
--------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
Find a Professional
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Advertise on Piano World

(ad)
Piano Buyer Guide
Piano Buyer Spring 2018
ad
Pierce Piano Atlas


Who's Online Now
101 registered members (akc42, agraffe, bennevis, anamnesis, asb37, 30 invisible), 1,367 guests, and 7 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords & Scales
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Time Capsule: 1985 Schimmel 174T #630520
10/04/07 06:56 PM
10/04/07 06:56 PM
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 7
Fresno, CA
Bristol693 Offline OP
Junior Member
Bristol693  Offline OP
Junior Member
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 7
Fresno, CA
I am hoping some of you technicians might be able to help me make an informed decision. You have a hold-harmless from me on this. Thanks...

I have a friend whose mother purchased a Schimmel 174T in 1985 while in Germany. Two years after she bought the piano, she died suddenly. My friend has not been willing to part with the piano and has kept it in a roll-up storage facility for the past 20 years. The piano is on its factory supplied skid covered in blankets that are now permeated in dust. Blowing the dust off shows a fine high-gloss finish and, from the underside of the piano, the soundboard does not show evidence of cracking. What, are the potential downfalls that I could experience if I purchase this piano from him? There is not room in the facility to set the piano up for inspection so this would be somewhat of a gamble on my part if I buy it from him. For all intents and purposes, this is a piano that has virtually no use but has been neglected in storage for 20 years. There is not evidence in the storage facility of moisture, rodents, or insects, just a lot of dust on everything.

(ad 800)
PTG Convention
PTG Convention 2018 Lancaster PA
Re: Time Capsule: 1985 Schimmel 174T #630521
10/05/07 12:05 PM
10/05/07 12:05 PM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,458
Albuquerque, NM
Cy Shuster, RPT Offline
3000 Post Club Member
Cy Shuster, RPT  Offline
3000 Post Club Member
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,458
Albuquerque, NM
There are many potential downfalls, such as not being tunable, or that the action needs extensive work.

Get a technician to inspect it. It's not necessary for it to be set on its legs in order for the most serious problems to be checked, such as insufficient tuning pin torque, humidity damage to the bridges, etc.

Storage on the side for such a long time may affect damper alignment and possibly the hammer flanges. There will likely be finish damage on the bass side from long pressure against the blankets, but this is usually the side placed to the wall.

That's a good piano and a good size, most likely worth the investment to make it playable. But get an inspection and appraisal, so you can know what a fair price is. Regardless of a piano's original price, current condition overrides everything.

You can find a technician here: http://www.ptg.org

--Cy--


Cy Shuster, RPT
www.shusterpiano.com
Albuquerque, New Mexico
Director, PTG Norfolk 2016 Technical Institute
http://convention.ptg.org
Re: Time Capsule: 1985 Schimmel 174T #630522
10/05/07 12:48 PM
10/05/07 12:48 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 26,153
Oakland
B
BDB Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
BDB  Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
B
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 26,153
Oakland
Actually, it is difficult to assess anything while a grand piano is on its side. It is likely that there is nothing wrong, other than needed a lot of service, but you should either get a very reduced price on it, or get it on a trial basis, or both.


Semipro Tech
Re: Time Capsule: 1985 Schimmel 174T #630523
10/05/07 02:08 PM
10/05/07 02:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 7
Fresno, CA
Bristol693 Offline OP
Junior Member
Bristol693  Offline OP
Junior Member
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 7
Fresno, CA
Cy and BDB, Thank you both for your input. I had not thought about the potential loss of tuning pin tourqe or the issue of damper alignment. I had envisioned damage to the finish where the piano has rested for so long. My other concern is the condition of the hammers and dampers. How does felt hold up in that kind of circumstance? Anyone else's views would be appreciated.

(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
Re: Time Capsule: 1985 Schimmel 174T #630524
10/05/07 03:11 PM
10/05/07 03:11 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 26,153
Oakland
B
BDB Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
BDB  Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
B
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 26,153
Oakland
I doubt if damper alignment will be a problem. Tuning pins and felt are only problematic if there was a humidity problem where it was stored, but it is hard to check them without setting up the piano.


Semipro Tech
Re: Time Capsule: 1985 Schimmel 174T #630525
10/05/07 04:38 PM
10/05/07 04:38 PM
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 7
Fresno, CA
Bristol693 Offline OP
Junior Member
Bristol693  Offline OP
Junior Member
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 7
Fresno, CA
Thanks again. By "humidity problem," do you mean excess humidity or extreme low humidity?

Re: Time Capsule: 1985 Schimmel 174T #630526
10/05/07 07:48 PM
10/05/07 07:48 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 26,153
Oakland
B
BDB Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
BDB  Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
B
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 26,153
Oakland
Variations in humidity.


Semipro Tech

Moderated by  Piano World 

New Topics - Multiple Forums
Buying an old Steinway and having it rebuilt
by asb37. 06/20/18 01:28 PM
Showroom Roland HP603 extremely laggy
by marimorimo. 06/20/18 12:12 PM
Kawai K3 - loud notes after bass break
by forgottenlife. 06/20/18 11:26 AM
Crack in Bechstein
by westsider. 06/20/18 10:28 AM
Hello and a question about confidence
by SomethingCorporate. 06/20/18 07:59 AM
(ad)
Pianoteq
PianoTeq Steingraeber
(125ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
Forum Statistics
Forums40
Topics186,070
Posts2,726,199
Members90,416
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
(ad)
Accu-Tuner
Sanderson Accu-Tuner
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers


 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2018 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1