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Re: Damper pedal #628586
03/28/08 07:43 PM
03/28/08 07:43 PM
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Way to pipe up Jerry. It is troublesome how many people blame the tuner for every thing that goes wrong on a piano. And yes, I check all pedals all the time, make adjustment. I even check the key covers, just to make sure its back properly. Normally I tweek pianos, and look for problesm each time I visit. I dont charge, and dont tell. People dont even seem to notice. Except 8 months later. "YOU TUNED MY PIANO AND NOW BLEEP----BLEEP ISNT WORKING.... eek


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Re: Damper pedal #628587
03/29/08 04:01 AM
03/29/08 04:01 AM
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I hope I diod not offend anyone, I can only talk of what I can see in the field.

But this is not new story, of course the tuner is not always to blame, but for instance yesterday I came to an appraisal of a very nice looking Pleyel grand, regularely tuned each year since 1946. The piano was in tune but did not work well, it needed complete restauration + the soundoard had an enormous crack with ribs unglued.

Never the tuner state a word about repair or maintenance. he keeped the piano minimally functionnal, the owner did not even realize the piano did not work at its best.

this is fairly common here.

Thats all I said, I respect the tuners that do their job I even know a visual impaired tuner that glue back hammers very nicely. But this is less common than one believes , mostly for economic reaons, as the time not taken for that job allows for another tuning at the end of the day.

All I had to say, sorry if it is not the case for you gentelemen (I'll tend to believe that tuners on forums are of another kind indeed !)

Best regards.


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Re: Damper pedal #628588
03/29/08 06:07 AM
03/29/08 06:07 AM
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Isaac: Thanks for the voicing tips.

Diinin: Glad your Walter's tone generally suits you. They are quite a piano. Its a relief to play mine after working on a challeging piano. It reminds me that you can make a piano better, but it has to be a good piano to begin with for great results.


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Re: Damper pedal #628589
03/29/08 10:14 AM
03/29/08 10:14 AM
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Tuners are that way all over Kamin. Some are good, some are not. It's that way in any business but, I tend to think this business is more plagued with the crummy ones more than any other business is. So many tuners get into it part time or, don't want to get real serious about learning it or only to "only fix their own piano," it's pathetic. I think that's one reason why we as a whole, are not highly looked upon. They dress lousy, some of them look and act screwy etc. The techs know exactly what I'm talking about here.


Jerry Groot RPT
Piano Technicians Guild
Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Re: Damper pedal #628590
03/29/08 10:40 AM
03/29/08 10:40 AM
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My guess is the problem with the damper pedal has something to do with the dowel rod from the lifter rod to the pedal. Without seeing it, it's impossible to tell. But a simple fix if that's it. Regardless, pedal problems are usually fairly simple to fix. Interesting discussion about blaming the tech. Wish I had more time today for posting. Jack leg techs do give all a bad name, so maybe some of the blaming is justified. But it is frustrating to follow these so call techs.


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