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A piano for Halloween #606348
10/30/08 02:39 AM
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Came across this on my local Craigslist. Don't click if you're squeamish:

http://lansing.craigslist.org/msg/887019670.html


OH THE HORROR!


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Re: A piano for Halloween #606349
10/30/08 02:41 AM
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Re: A piano for Halloween #606350
10/30/08 07:20 AM
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Hard to imagine why anyone would part with these gems.


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Re: A piano for Halloween #606351
10/30/08 12:28 PM
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Well...since it's Halloween, I'll post this link again....

http://pianoburning.blogspot.com/


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Re: A piano for Halloween #606352
10/31/08 06:18 PM
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El Cajon, CA
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Actually.... my idea of a Halloween piano is a beat up old upright that has seen better days....

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/O9PswWItj4N53WoyowpkVA"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_1zM-vTbAb1c/SQts_xNJJuI/AAAAAAAAAtY/pO6tHGwZYmw/s640/RCPiano1.jpg" /></a>

Here\'s some audio clips.

The picture was taken in September 1994, but the audio was recorded in September of both 1981 and 1982. (It wasn't me playing the piano - 1: I wasn't there (or don't remember - was too young) and 2: even if I was there I probably couldn't reach the keyboard.)
The last time and place I saw that piano was in September 1996, at Robbers Cave State Park near Wilburton, OK. It was in Group Camp 1, in a building kind of like an auditorium, with bench seating and a stage at one end. Looking toward the stage from inside, the piano was in a small room off to the left offstage. I wonder if it's still there... Some people that went there every year for a few decades told me the piano has been there since the 1950s or possibly earlier.... btw I haven't been there since.


And... ok, so this isn't the same piano - it's a spinet recorded in 1990, but wouldn't you say this piano\'s tuning is haunted , too? eek

Can you guys come up with some pics (and recordings) that would make what I posted seem like a brand new freshly tuned Rubenstein in comparison? Or is what I posted as bad as it gets? laugh


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Re: A piano for Halloween #606353
10/31/08 08:50 PM
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Grand Rapids Michigan
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Now I know what happened to your Bb!!!


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Re: A piano for Halloween #606354
11/01/08 01:22 AM
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That's not the same piano as the Hamilton (in another thread) in which I'm having minor Bb issues, Jerry.


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Re: A piano for Halloween #606355
11/01/08 11:25 AM
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I know but, I couldn't resist!


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Re: A piano for Halloween #606356
11/02/08 12:43 AM
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laugh

I wonder if it's even physically possible to get that piano (the one I posted the picture of) in playing condition... nevermind what it'd cost to rebuild it... or is it already too far gone, even if cost wasn't a factor?


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Re: A piano for Halloween #606357
11/02/08 12:17 PM
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Any piano is possible to bring back to playing condition. It's a matter of how much time, effort and money is one willing to invest and is the piano worth it.

I remember one of the first pianos I ever took in was from a school. I did so for the experience of learning. Every single hammer had been broken off. Most, were broken off near the butts. It looked to us as if someone had just snipped them all off.

My dad helped me figure out the proper hammer line on it. We could see the discoloration verses the cleaner spots where the hammers were striking the strings before broken off. We used those cleaner spots for the start of our hammer line using small strips of masking tape for a straight edge for a beginning line taping them dead center of the clean spots. Obviously, we had to adjust accordingly here and there but, at least we had our beginning line.

I removed all of the hammer butts, drilled out all of the old butt shanks, replaced or re-bushed butt flanges depending on how extensive the damage was due to them breaking hammers off, (with his help of course.) We re-installed the butt's and installed new hammers and shanks in them. We trimmed the shanks accordingly until we found the right height for each section of hammers. The high treble was the trickiest as there is very little to no room for error up there.

The bass strings were completely dead so we replaced them. We also replaced the whites and sharps.

When we were finished with hammer installation, I removed the action, cleaned the strings, re-installed it, regulated it, replaced key punching's etc., leveled keys and whatever else it needed. I even refinished the piano myself. I'll never do THAT AGAIN! That's a trick in and of itself! I didn't realize how many grooves and corners there were in a piano!!! It didn't cost ME much fortunately, as my dad paid for most of the parts and stuff.

When we were finished, that piano sounded and played marvelously! Just like the typical old upright sounded way back when...

I still tune that piano to this day. smile


Jerry Groot RPT
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Grand Rapids, Michigan
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We love to play BF2.

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