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#600221 - 06/06/06 02:44 PM The Problem with Slow Movements  
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I get bored! I know it's terrible, but most of the time I get bored halfway through the slow movements of Sonatas and Concertos and skip to the next movement. I am a bad person frown

I have no problem with playing slow pieces but when I'm listening to them I just lose interest so easily. I know I'm missing out on alot of good music, but I just can't keep my interest as I can with the outer movements. Does anyone else find this?


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#600222 - 06/06/06 03:56 PM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements  
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I'm like that unless the performer is really good, or if the movement/piece is something I play/ have played.


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#600223 - 06/06/06 04:18 PM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements  
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same here..... like for example, i played beethovens pathetique sonata but skipped the second movement. it is very nice listening to it but i just wanted something more "fun".


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#600224 - 06/06/06 05:25 PM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements  
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This was what I thought the first time I heard classical sonatas. But now I'm not bored at all when I listen to the slow movements. I just listened to some Schubert and when I listened to Beethoven again, it seemed much more interesting.


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#600225 - 06/06/06 06:59 PM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements  
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I think listening to music requires just as much concentration as performing it. And just like performing, it requires some practice to get good at it. I really started getting into classical music about five years ago, but it took at least three or four years to be able to really get something out of slow movements.

But don't blame it all on yourself - there are indeed some slow movements that are just plain boring, just as there are fast movements which are trite. Don't get discouraged - just keep listening to music and eventually you'll be able to enjoy it more. Like most of the better things in life it's an acquired taste.

#600226 - 06/06/06 07:21 PM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements  
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I would think this is a matter of temperament and mood.
I experience the oppisite. I like the fun of fast movements but that's where the struggle with technique begins - at least for me frown
What I find really difficult is playing a 'slow movement' even so fast enough so that it will flow.

#600227 - 06/06/06 08:53 PM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements  
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I would think this is a matter of temperament and mood.
For me, it most certainly is. Sometimes I am in the mood, and other times I am not. I adjust my playlist accordingly. wink


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#600228 - 06/07/06 03:55 PM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements  
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This was what I thought the first time I heard classical sonatas. But now I'm not bored at all when I listen to the slow movements. I just listened to some Schubert and when I listened to Beethoven again, it seemed much more interesting.
Ah! That is because Schubert sonatas are way more long- winded than Beethoven! They take a longer time to acquire a taste for.


Evert- I used to be like that until I got a different teacher. She pointed out everywhere where I paused on the fast movements or where the slow movements started dragging. I would practice around the areas she told me, and, well, it just fixed up like magic. Well, she's an awesome teacher. cool


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#600229 - 06/07/06 04:31 PM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements  
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Originally posted by Josh Bish:
I get bored! I know it's terrible, but most of the time I get bored halfway through the slow movements of Sonatas and Concertos and skip to the next movement. I am a bad person frown

I have no problem with playing slow pieces but when I'm listening to them I just lose interest so easily. I know I'm missing out on alot of good music, but I just can't keep my interest as I can with the outer movements. Does anyone else find this?
How about the slow parts of fast movements and fast parts of slow movements? Even some fast movements get me bored, but slow movements could be very interesting.

As Silent Omen mentioned, some slow movements are truly boring though. I guess that depends on taste too.


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#600230 - 06/08/06 12:03 AM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements  
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I feel the opposite. I love the slow movements. You can actually hear the notes, chords, structure better.

Maybe I'm a romantic at heart, but I can and do listen to the slow movements of Moonlight, Pathetique, Hammerklavier over and over again. In fact, today on the way into and out of work I was listening intently to Hammerklavier's slow movement. I must have repeated it 5 times at least.


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#600231 - 06/08/06 02:38 AM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements  
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I don't find the fast movements nearly as satisfying without the slow movements to contrast. They feel like an integral part of the piece. How about, for example, the Rachaninoff Concertos? The outer movements of the any of his concertos wouldn' feel as powerful without the inner movements to provide the listener a break and give a conctrasting thought and emotion.


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#600232 - 06/08/06 06:17 AM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements  
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You've certainly given me some food for thought and I will definitely give slow movements another chance. I didn't think of it in terms of providing a contrast, I knew it did but I didn't think of it that way.....if you know what I mean?


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#600233 - 06/08/06 10:43 AM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements  
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I feel the opposite. I love the slow movements. You can actually hear the notes, chords, structure better.

Maybe I'm a romantic at heart, but I can and do listen to the slow movements of Moonlight, Pathetique, Hammerklavier over and over again. In fact, today on the way into and out of work I was listening intently to Hammerklavier's slow movement. I must have repeated it 5 times at least.
Actually I've turned into such a person as well. But this is only playing piano, and not listening. I can listen to anything, but if I have to play a fast piece, I'm too often struggling with the difficult passages while working on a slow piece I have the feeling I can spend all my time working on playing it REALLY well.


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