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#594752 - 01/03/08 01:27 PM Scales  
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Does anyone practise scales down and then up??

It seems useful to do, as the 'peaks' in the scales are the most difficult parts and so doing them the tradtitional way (if up and then down is the traditional way I've had the wrong idea) isn't giving the chance for the LH to do that.
I personally am going to start practising them thus so to better the outer fingers in my LH.


Does anyone else practise them down and then up?


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#594753 - 01/03/08 02:28 PM Re: Scales  
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hopinmad :

That's an interesting idea; I'll have to try to incorporate it into my scales practice from time to time.

Thanks for the suggestion.

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#594754 - 01/03/08 04:25 PM Re: Scales  
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I was introduced to that idea by my teacher in Honolulu as a change from the regular routine of starting scales ascending and then descending. Also one note to two in either hand, one note to three, and one note to four. It takes some concentration to keep on hand steady and other with two, three, or four notes and come out right! This was usually for two octaves until they came out together. And the same in contrary motion as well. The triplets, for a two-octave range had to be played three times to come out right. Both hands would start on the tonic in the middle and radiate out and back in. Makes scales a bit more interesting and hand independence also.

#594755 - 01/03/08 09:15 PM Re: Scales  
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I've seen this one:

Two octaves parallel ascending.
then two octaves contrary motion right hand ascending, left descending.
then back with two octaves right hand descending, left hand ascending.
Then continue with two more octaves parallel ascending.
Then reverse the whole thing.

This gives you a bit more of a work out and requires you to focus more on the parallel and contrary motion. I've seen it called the Grand Form or a Russian Form.

Rich


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#594756 - 01/03/08 09:27 PM Re: Scales  
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Originally posted by DragonPianoPlayer:
I've seen this one:

Two octaves parallel ascending.
then two octaves contrary motion right hand ascending, left descending.
then back with two octaves right hand descending, left hand ascending.
Then continue with two more octaves parallel ascending.
Then reverse the whole thing.

This gives you a bit more of a work out and requires you to focus more on the parallel and contrary motion. I've seen it called the Grand Form or a Russian Form.

Rich
The RCM (Toronto) calls this "formula pattern" scales, and requires examination candidates to play selected major scales in this manner over two octaves starting in Grade 6 and selected major scales over four octaves starting in Grade 8. For the Grade 10 and ARCT diploma examinations, all scales, major and harmonic minor, may be required by the examiner to be played in "formula pattern".

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