2022 our 25th year online!

Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments.
Over 100,000 members from around the world.
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Who's Online Now
54 members (CharlesXX, bcalvanese, AlkansBookcase, Adam Reynolds, cascadia, Carey, accordeur, 1957, 10 invisible), 2,145 guests, and 301 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,264
btb Offline OP
4000 Post Club Member
OP Offline
4000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,264
Is it starting at a young age under good tuition, developing top sight-reading skills or is it dedicated practice and excellent aural memory that eventually carries the day?

Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 161
F
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
F
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 161
I guess the formula of achieving a success as a concert pianist is not only to be a technically excellent performer but also to be able to spellbound the audience. Piano performing is just as much show business (combined with smart marketing).

Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 2,846
M
2000 Post Club Member
Offline
2000 Post Club Member
M
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 2,846
2 things, technically:

1) You have to be a pianist
2) You have to play in concerts

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 386
F
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
F
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 386
LOL

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 167
D
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
D
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 167
Although I'm a pianist and I play in concerts, but wouldn't consider myself a 'concert pianist'
How odd :p

Dave

Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,981
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,981
2 things:

you gotta be good
you gotta be lucky

koji (STSD)


"I'm a concert pianist--that's a pretentious way of saying I'm unemployed at the moment."--Oscar Levant

http://www.youtube.com/kojiattwood
https://www.giftedmusicschool.org/
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,654
4000 Post Club Member
Offline
4000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,654
Quote
Originally posted by Thracozaag:
2 things:

you gotta be good
you gotta be lucky

koji (STSD)
...or you need a lot of money and lots of friends so you can hire out concert halls, and fill them up with audiences.


btb,

Sight reading doesn't have as much to do with it.

Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 9
P
Junior Member
Offline
Junior Member
P
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 9
hey
what a stupid thread!
look around and try to find a concert pianist who is able to make his living on playing, there are only a few buddies to do so, the "rest" , well sleeping the half of the day and practising the other

it's better learning a serios craft and be a lucky plummer than living in LA doing concerts or writing scores for Disney

all rite, fellows?

Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,192
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,192
Quote
Originally posted by panicworld:
hey
what a stupid thread!
Thats a bit harsh eek


"A print of the score has everything you need to know about the music, except the essential."
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,192
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,192
I think you are best listening to Brendan or Elena for this type of question. smile


"A print of the score has everything you need to know about the music, except the essential."
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,254
M
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
M
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,254
I think it has a lot to do with luck. I mean, think about Lang Lang. He had nothing until he got a lucky break when some concert pianist got injured before a performance, so he stepped in, and after that one performance he got so much exposure that his life's not been the same since. Same thing for Horowitz, his career was abysmal (he played for half-empty auditoriums in France and to scathing reviews) until, in America, he subbed in for an injured pianist and played the Tchaikosvsky Concerto No 1 as if his fingers were on fire. His life was never the same.

I remember reading that, before the concert, the conductor at the time said to Horowitz something like, "just don't screw up and we'll make it out no problem." Remember that Horowitz had less than one day's notice to play in the concert. So, Horowitz proceeded to light the piano and the audience on fire with his fingers, and the shocked conductor occasionally stared at Horowitz's fingers in awe and amazement. I can imagine that if I was there, I would know that a special career was jumpstarting on the stage.

Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 13,837
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 13,837
Pretty much everybody takes a different path.


"If we continually try to force a child to do what he is afraid to do, he will become more timid, and will use his brains and energy, not to explore the unknown, but to find ways to avoid the pressures we put on him." (John Holt)

www.pianoped.com
www.youtube.com/user/UIPianoPed
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 2,506
A
2000 Post Club Member
Offline
2000 Post Club Member
A
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 2,506
So is Watts. That Liszt Concerto No.1 launched his huge career.

Cecil Licad had 6 listeners including the stage hand in her first recital. Listen to her new Gattschalk recording on Naxos will fully convince you that she IS cut out to be a professional pianist.

Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,235
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,235
Quote
Originally posted by Freedom:
I think you are best listening to Brendan or Elena for this type of question. smile
Or Koji (Thracozaag, who has already sounded off). Don't forget that he's a phenomenal pianist as well who went to Curtis and is now at Julliard working towards his Ph.D. He knows a thing or two about the business!

His post actually sums everything up perfectly and concisely. "Gotta be good; gotta be lucky" All of us can develop, overtime, an amazing technique and, if we love the music, a respectable sense of musicality. But as for hitting the concert stage and attracting an audience, well..that typically relies on who you know and on being at the right place at the right time.

Joined: May 2001
Posts: 6,050
B
6000 Post Club Member
Offline
6000 Post Club Member
B
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 6,050
Quote
Originally posted by AndrewG:
So is Watts. That Liszt Concerto No.1 launched his huge career.
True. Funny thing now is that a good number of pianists substituted for an "ailing" Watts and had a big boost because of it - Orion Weiss and Lang Lang come to mind immediately.

Edit:

To add my experience to the thread, you need:

1. Money or a sponsor.
2. Luck.
3. A bubbling personality.

Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 2,846
M
2000 Post Club Member
Offline
2000 Post Club Member
M
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 2,846
Quote
Originally posted by Thracozaag:
2 things:

you gotta be good
you gotta be lucky

koji (STSD)
And these days..

You gotta know the right people
You have to sell yourself! (aka provacative photography)

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,254
M
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
M
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,254
No I think you can be boring and make it big as a concert pianist. Yundi Li talking is probably about as exciting to listen to as a ceiling fan. I have on tape several of his interviews. But his playing is exquisite.

Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,073
G
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
G
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,073
Quote
Originally posted by Mikester:
Yundi Li talking is probably about as exciting to listen to as a ceiling fan.
rofl laugh




____________________

"... It is a skill you go on learning all your life: the more you write, the more you learn."

Harry Freedman on the craft of composing
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,981
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,981
Quote
Originally posted by Brendan:
Quote
Originally posted by AndrewG:
[b] So is Watts. That Liszt Concerto No.1 launched his huge career.
True. Funny thing now is that a good number of pianists substituted for an "ailing" Watts and had a big boost because of it - Orion Weiss and Lang Lang come to mind immediately.

Edit:

To add my experience to the thread, you need:

1. Money or a sponsor.
2. Luck.
3. A bubbling personality. [/b]
Meng-Chieh Liu as well! Watts has unwittingly helped a lot of pianists, haha.

koji (STSD)


"I'm a concert pianist--that's a pretentious way of saying I'm unemployed at the moment."--Oscar Levant

http://www.youtube.com/kojiattwood
https://www.giftedmusicschool.org/
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,336
2000 Post Club Member
Offline
2000 Post Club Member
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,336
Weiss is good but by boosting Lang Lang to fame, I'd say Watts has created a monster...

Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5

Moderated by  Brendan, platuser 

Link Copied to Clipboard
What's Hot!!
Piano World Has Been Sold!
--------------------
Forums RULES, Terms of Service & HELP
(updated 06/06/2022)
---------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
(ad)
(ad)
New Topics - Multiple Forums
How Much to Sell For?
by TexasMom1 - 04/15/24 10:23 PM
Song lyrics have become simpler and more repetitive
by FrankCox - 04/15/24 07:42 PM
New bass strings sound tubby
by Emery Wang - 04/15/24 06:54 PM
Pianodisc PDS-128+ calibration
by Dalem01 - 04/15/24 04:50 PM
Forum Statistics
Forums43
Topics223,384
Posts3,349,152
Members111,629
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010

Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations |

Advertise on Piano World
| Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map


Copyright © VerticalScope Inc. All Rights Reserved.
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community.