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Re: Evgeny Kissin the Best? Who Else? #581434
07/27/06 07:40 AM
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Re: Evgeny Kissin the Best? Who Else? #581435
07/27/06 04:21 PM
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Back to the main subject, in my opinion, Evgeny Kissin is not the best ever, nor even the best of our time. Like anyone, he has his strengths and weaknesses.

For me his primary weakness is his reticence to go outside the mainstream repertoire. If I have recordings of Rubinstein, Horowitz, Kapell, Fleischer, et cetera playing repertiore staples, I'm not likely to be interested in getting someone else's--unless that pianist sheds extraordinary new light on the work in question. For me, Kissin's performances offer little that is new. Now that he's no longer a child prodigy, the novelty has worn off.

However, one recent recording of Kissin's I can wholeheartedly recommend is his recent recording of Scriabin's Third Sonata. Playing of astonishing poetry and beauty of tone. Let's hope he keeps this up.


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Re: Evgeny Kissin the Best? Who Else? #581436
07/27/06 04:37 PM
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I am totally convinced that Rubinstein was the most natural pianist. All other pianists seem more or less contrived in comparison.

Wilhelm Kempff played with great warmth and Sultanov played marvellously at the van Cliburn competition.

Kissin played well when he was young. I have a very nice recording with him playing two Mozart concertos.

I don´t like smart pianists that try to create a meaning or a contrived feeling or effect with a piece instead of playing with spontaneous musicality. Those kind of interpretations appeal to people who are trying hard to understand a piece and want a meaning on a plate.

That is why I prefer Rubinstein to Horowitz.


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Re: Evgeny Kissin the Best? Who Else? #581437
07/27/06 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by Hank Drake:


However, one recent recording of Kissin's I can wholeheartedly recommend is his recent recording of Scriabin's Third Sonata. Playing of astonishing poetry and beauty of tone. Let's hope he keeps this up.
Yah, I have that recording. It's really good.


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Re: Evgeny Kissin the Best? Who Else? #581438
07/27/06 05:19 PM
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I am really trying to understand Cziffra, but the more I try, the more I realize that despite his literally God-like motor skills, precision and near demonic speed with which he plays, there is little music to be heard. It just doesn't speak to me, it has no depth or feeling. Cziffra sounds like an automoton.

Re: Evgeny Kissin the Best? Who Else? #581439
07/27/06 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by gordonf238:
I am really trying to understand Cziffra, but the more I try, the more I realize that despite his literally God-like motor skills, precision and near demonic speed with which he plays, there is little music to be heard. It just doesn't speak to me, it has no depth or feeling. Cziffra sounds like an automoton.
To each his own...but Cziffra is amazing if you ask me wink

Re: Evgeny Kissin the Best? Who Else? #581440
07/27/06 08:23 PM
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Cziffra sounds like an automoton.
I agree.


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Re: Evgeny Kissin the Best? Who Else? #581441
07/28/06 03:14 PM
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Sokolov, Nelson Freiere, Argerich, Rubinstein and Kapell.


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Re: Evgeny Kissin the Best? Who Else? #581442
07/29/06 04:31 PM
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it took a while for rubinstein to start appearing on people's lists.


im not really in a creative mood
Re: Evgeny Kissin the Best? Who Else? #581443
07/31/06 01:00 AM
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not man people like him. Although I rather enjoy his Pathetique Sonata.


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Re: Evgeny Kissin the Best? Who Else? #581444
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Dubravka. Check her out........Rubenstein thought so highly of her that he brought her over from Slovenia to train her himself when she was 12 years old. Her Chopin is unparalleled!!


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