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Trill question - Mozart K. 283 Presto #581232
04/01/08 07:09 PM
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I started to learn the K. 283 sonata, and I have a question about the trill in the opening of the presto. They are in double notes - I assume that the trill be will CDC with the A held down. What is the best fingering for this, considering you are coming from the GB third into it?

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Re: Trill question - Mozart K. 283 Presto #581233
04/01/08 07:19 PM
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I use 1 2 on the opening third.

I think you need to rethink the trill. Unless your fingers are really fast, it should be DCBC. If you're very quick, double the initial DC, making it a true trill. You have to start on the top note of the trill no matter what.

As for fingering, I play 1 4 on A and D on the second beat. The trill is played 43(43)23. You end with 2 4 on the B and D.

This really isn't all that easy, particularly if you want to play it as a true trill and up to tempo.

I'm sure somebody will correct me. But those are my thoughts.

Re: Trill question - Mozart K. 283 Presto #581234
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I play it with 12 on the opening quarter, and 12 on the 8th note, the trill for me is 2323 I can't figure out how many trills I pull off in it - I'm almost postive it's just 2323 and not 232323)with the resulting chord being played with 13. There's no real call for legato in that part, and the presto almost forces you away from legato to make the notes succint. It also helps to give the movement that bouncing wuality in the beginning if you break up your fingering into non-legato. So, while not a smooth fingering, it definately helps me achieve a note differentation. And as for holding the A down, it's presto. If you follow common Mozart practice of playing the second chord with half it's value (since it's an unaccented chord leading to an accented chord) it shouldn't be an issue - especially in a presto tempo. Reducing that note to half it's value may be a bit much for some people's tastes, but it definately wouldn't be unusual for that time. Just my opinion on the matter : I hope it helps.

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