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#578119 - 02/21/06 12:29 AM wow  
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My teacher performed Rachmaninov's Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini tonight. I was talking with him before the concert, and I remembered that he had just recently learned this piece.

"Yeah, I started learning it after I got back from Moscow" (the beginning of January 2006).

"So you learned the entire Rhapsody in a month and a half and now you're performing it?"

"Well, I performed it with an orchestra already, in January, so I should be fine tonight."

eek


(and, that was only one of several pieces that he was working on at the time)


He played it sooooo well tonight (from memory). thumb


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#578120 - 02/21/06 08:12 AM Re: wow  
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He must be an alien - no question about it. There just doesn't exist a human being who could achieve this! laugh wink


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#578121 - 02/21/06 08:29 AM Re: wow  
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Every famous and semi-famous concert pianist can prepare a concerto from scratch in three weeks. Some won't, as a matter of principle, and some never need to, but they all can.

OK, I'm generalizing a bit, but what you've observed is the rule, Sam, not the exception.

#578122 - 02/21/06 11:41 AM Re: wow  
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My college professor learned the Saint-Saens second concerto over two days before performing it in public.


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#578123 - 02/21/06 11:57 AM Re: wow  
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Originally posted by pianojerome:
My teacher performed Rachmaninov's Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini tonight. I was talking with him before the concert, and I remembered that he had just recently learned this piece.

"Yeah, I started learning it after I got back from Moscow" (the beginning of January 2006).

"So you learned the entire Rhapsody in a month and a half and now you're performing it?"

"Well, I performed it with an orchestra already, in January, so I should be fine tonight."

eek


(and, that was only one of several pieces that he was working on at the time)


He played it sooooo well tonight (from memory). thumb
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Originally posted by 8ude:
My college professor learned the Saint-Saens second concerto over two days before performing it in public.
Ummm... "Wow" eek


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#578124 - 02/21/06 01:12 PM Re: wow  
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You hear of certain pianists who can play pretty much anything at first sight, so for them presumably learning a concerto may not entail more than playing it through several times to memorize it.

#578125 - 02/21/06 01:40 PM Re: wow  
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With performing concert pianist this is not too 'out of the norm'. It's a well-known fact that Ashkenazy, Kalishtein, Biret, Barenboim and others learn a concerto or full length sonata from 'cold' and commit to memory within a week or two. Richter was another example of super fast learner. In this day and time you almost HAVE to be a fast learner to make the cut, so to speak.

#578126 - 02/21/06 03:11 PM Re: wow  
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Yup, you have to be ready to go, plain and simple. If you aren't, there are 400 other similing young pianists who are, and you don't want to make a reputation as someone who turns things down.

#578127 - 02/21/06 03:22 PM Re: wow  
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#578128 - 02/21/06 04:12 PM Re: wow  
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Perhaps thats why almost every recording or performance that I hear of my favourite concertos sound shoddy, under-practiced and rushed. No matter how skilled a pianist I was, I couldn't allow myself to play something like that without having nailed it perfectly beforehand, unless I despised the piece.


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