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Re: Rach 2 vs Rach 3 #575661
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Originally posted by Jeff135:
The Rachmaninoff 2nd is better in my opinion because the melodies and musical depth is absolutely incredible. I can remember the first time .....
just the same opinion, you only have to replace 2 with 3 laugh
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Re: Rach 2 vs Rach 3 #575662
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Originally posted by Rach.3Freak105:
Rachmaninoff himself also felt that way he said " Even with my own concertos I much prefer the third because my second is uncomfortable to play."
The second may be more "uncomfortable to play," but, since I'm playing neither - at least, not in this lifetime - the second is my preferred of the two, simply on a purely musical basis.

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Re: Rach 2 vs Rach 3 #575663
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Overall I much prefer the second. Ive never really got that much into the second and third movements of the Rach 3 (except the finale which is breathtaking). I prefer most of the 1st movement of the third than the first movement of the second, its much more interesting. Nevertheless, the second and third movements of the Rach 2 are my favourite pieces of music of all time. The opening is pretty awesome too.
lol, Its hard to talk about this, lots of firsts seconds and thirds everywhere.

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I love the first notes of the string in Rach2-1. Even though I'm an avid 3-1 fan (especially of the chordal cadenza), I have to say the main theme of 2-1 just dominates Rach 3, especially when it resurfaces halfway through with tumultuous chords of death. =)


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When José Carreras was treated for cancer the piece he found comfort in was the 2nd piano concerto.

You can read it in his biography.


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Re: Rach 2 vs Rach 3 #575666
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After 26 years of playing piano....a little bit of everything from the often calm and serene yet sometimes complex nocturnes of Chopin to the stone cold groove melodies of jazz with the Rippingtons, I've probably seen it, heard it, and quite often played it. Like a few in this post, I have to say I like the Rach 2 and 3 equally...they both present something different and absolutely incredible in the concerto repertoire.

The second is absolutely beautiful with its hypnotic melodies and lush orchestrations and who can forget that opening that's always described as the bells from Moscow. And the third satisfies even the fanciest of virtuosos and also has some beautiful melodies.

Rach 2-2 hands down some of the most beautiful music ever written. Rach 3-3...sit back, hang on, right until the very end. I've yet to play it but maybe someday. I already do the 2nd as part of a C minor program...Mozart 24, Beethoven 3, and Rachmaninov 2.

Needless to say, whatever your tastes....you will find it nestled somewhere in these 2...the pinnacle of classical piano. Enjoy!

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They are both amazing pieces. I prefer the rach 3 and find it musically deeper then the rach 2. The rach to is more convential to me. Eitherway they are not as good as Beethoven's 4 or 5th piano concertos.

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Well, I was a fan of the 3rd until I listened to the 2nd concerto. See, the 3rd one has definitely its moments but besides those moments, I find it hard to concentrate on the music, there are simply too many notes and too little music.

But as soon as the chords start the 2nd concerto, I am listening without breathing. Musically it's much more mature as well, that's my opinion of course. The second concerto is one of the best concertos ever written. My favorite movement is the first but the 2nd movement is breathtaking as well...

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I wish "Rach" fans would make the effort - or learn how - to spell Rachmaninov - or Rachmaninoff, if you prefer.

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actually, only pianists or people who learn to play piano know exactly what 'Rach' stands for. when i first started, i learned 'Rach' not from any pianists but from a book talking about classical music, and refering 'Rach 3' as a known term for Rachmaninov's 3rd concerto. therefore, it's valid to just say 'Rach' instead of that long name, because in such a music community, everyone knows what 'Rach' means.

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Maybe because it's played so much, but the Rach 2nd concerto bores me. During the one live performance I heard of it, all I kept on thinking was how banal it seemed compared to any of the Beethoven Concerti. Just my personal opinion!

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