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Please help me. #572405
07/01/04 11:00 AM
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I've started working on my grade 8(ABRSM) pieces. I'm doing the Beethoven Sonata No.27 Op.90 in E min. I am quite frustrated as i'm not happy at all with it. The section in the piece from aroung bar 55 where the left hand has a fast repetative pattern which involves stretching a lot and the right hand has the melody in octaves. I can play it, but i always end up missing one or two notes in the left hand, is this a serious problem that I should continue to stress over until it is perfected(my hand hurts if I play this section too much, so it might be almost physically impossible for me) Or is it not worth tearing my hair out over. I've to play it in my exam,so do you think I will get marked down for missing afew notes. Pease help me.
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Re: Please help me. #572406
07/01/04 11:21 AM
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Hi Freedom. Absolutely everyone who's ever played op. 90 has complained about this problematic LH section. No need to worry about it. Just try to make it passable, use the pedal wisely, and make sure the RH figure really sings.


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Re: Please help me. #572407
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What does everyone think is the slowest I could play it at, the book I have says that it should not be played faster than a dotted crochet at 52 b.p.m. What is the slowest you guys think it can be played? as playing it faster would put less stress on me as i can play it quite resonably at 48 to 50 b.p.m

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Re: Please help me. #572408
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Well, If you can just start at 48- 50 b.p.m then just do that over and over until (your hand falls off. justkidding) you naturally feel the need to reach up to 52 b.p.m although, at 50 b.p.m.it shouldn't make too much of a diffrence.


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Re: Please help me. #572409
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Freedom: that piece is set for the Dip.ABRSM, not for Grade 8. confused

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it is for both. many pieces are like that

Re: Please help me. #572411
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I think Grade 8 only plays one movement while DipABRSM requires the complete sonata. 20 years ago when I did Grade 8, they required the entire sonata, but have since cut it down to distinguish it from DipABRSM (which did not exist then; it was straight to LRSM).

Freedom, how much you should worry over that section depends on how well you want to do in your exam. If you are aiming for a distinction, little things do count, but if you are satisfied with just a pass, you could get away with a mistake here and there. If your hand hurts, it is probable that you have not yet developed the technique required. Perhaps if you go onwards to your DipABRSM, you might be more judicious in your selection of pieces and not be overly ambitious.

Okay, here is a tip that might work for you: have you tried looking at your left hand as you play that section? By looking, you are less likely to miss any notes. The right hand only has a few octave changes, which you can memorize easily.

Re: Please help me. #572412
07/19/04 06:20 AM
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Thanks everyone for all your responses. I feel i've finally cracked it and i'm so pleased with myself smile (All I had to do was go back to playing it slowly then speed it up) i'm now quite comfortable at around 52b.p.m and that is playing it quietly so i'm very pleased.
(Yes, for grade 8 you only need the 1st mov. but with the Dip. you play the whole sonata.) Anyway thank you all for your advice.

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