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#550560 06/19/05 09:45 AM
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I read in a recent post by pianojerome that Grieg married his cousin. Although this was a bit weird, it didn't shock me too much, however i was reading up on Rachmaninov this morning and i found that he also married his cousin, Natalia Satina. This got me wondering, how many other weird marital relationships there are in the music world?

Anybody got any others they'd like to add?

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I believe cousin marriage used to be pretty common.

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It was...extremely common, especially among families trying to keep their bloodline "pure" (see "royalty"). wink


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I only knew about Rachmaninoff, but I'm sure there are more.


Aaron Copland too i think.

Just kidding.

#550564 06/19/05 11:20 AM
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You should read up on Percy Grainger - a fascinating personality who, among other things, apparently slept in the same bed with his mother well into middle-age (and I've heard reports that involved, uh, more than just sleeping. *Ahem*).


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Yes, he had a bedtime story.


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#550566 06/19/05 11:51 AM
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Bach married his cousin and I'm assuming some of his 20 kids came from her (she died and he remarried later)


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Originally posted by pianistcomposer:
You should read up on Percy Grainger - a fascinating personality who, among other things, apparently slept in the same bed with his mother well into middle-age (and I've heard reports that involved, uh, more than just sleeping. *Ahem*).
ROFLMAO!

that's pretty sick. Freud would be proud


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As for other "weird" relationships, I think it's weird enough as it is that Brahms was in love with Clara Schumann who was 14 years his senior, but at one point while he was simultaneously in love with her he fell in love with her young daughter Julie too and was heart broken when she got married. So he was in love with the mother and daughter at the same time. I'd say this qualifies as at least a little "weird."


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"It was...extremely common, especially among families trying to keep their bloodline "pure" (see "royalty")."

No wonder they all looked inbred!

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What the heck?


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Oh, right, i guess that didn't make much sense! Personal joke among friends really - sorry to confuse you.

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Not quite weird but the Schumann-Brahms love triangle is one interesting story.

Also Chopin's relationship with George Sand should have been quite intriguing given the personalities of the two characters.

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LoL no problem I just don't quite see how all the composers looked inbred if that's what you were implying


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#550574 06/19/05 12:56 PM
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It wasn't, well it kinda was but not coz of how they looked - its really stupid and it was one of those things were you kinda had to be there to understand.

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Closed for obvious reasons.


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"Closed for obvious reasons."

What do you mean?

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Probably something he said

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Gesualdo married his cousin. Gesualdo was actually a very unique composer, for two reasons: 1, because he was the only famous composer known to have been born entirely of royal blood; 2, because he was the only famous composer known to have murdered his wife.

I have to go out now, but I'll be back later to tell you the story!


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Closed for obvious reasons.
Now, now, don't mock our moderators! :rolleyes:


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