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#537337 - 03/07/08 10:11 AM Revised Recital  
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Beethoven: Sonata Op.13 in Cm "Pathetique"
Mozart: Fantasia No.3 in Dm K. 397
Chopin: Etude Op.10-1 in C
Chopin: Etude OP.10-12 in Cm "Revolutionary"

Intermission

Chopin: 3 Nocturnes Op.9
Beethoven: Sonata Op.27-2 in C#m "Moonlight"


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#537338 - 03/07/08 10:16 AM Re: Revised Recital  
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That's better.
The only change I would make is to open the recital with the Fantasia.

#537339 - 03/07/08 10:21 AM Re: Revised Recital  
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Open with the fantasia? I figured it would be better to put it in the middle. since its easier wouldnt it make it easier to follow up with the chopin etudes though?


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#537340 - 03/07/08 11:12 AM Re: Revised Recital  
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Not exactly a balanced program.


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#537341 - 03/07/08 11:20 AM Re: Revised Recital  
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That's a nice recital; I wouldn't change it.


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#537342 - 03/07/08 01:23 PM Re: Revised Recital  
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Originally posted by dnephi:
Not exactly a balanced program.
In what sense?

#537343 - 03/07/08 01:48 PM Re: Revised Recital  
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Classical Classical Romantic Classical

And you also have two unrelated Beethoven sonatas, plus another classical larger form.

It seems just weird.


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#537344 - 03/07/08 02:47 PM Re: Revised Recital  
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dnephi... your list has the beethoven variations on a theme in c minor listed as an etude??


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#537345 - 03/07/08 02:58 PM Re: Revised Recital  
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Just play what you want. If the audience likes, it, fine. If they do not, they do not have to come.


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#537346 - 03/07/08 03:15 PM Re: Revised Recital  
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Classical Classical Romantic Classical

And you also have two unrelated Beethoven sonatas, plus another classical larger form.

It seems just weird.
Do you consider the Mozart D minor Fantasy "another classical larger" form. For me, it's a (roughtly) six-minute, lighter work.

But I agree that the recital does not appear to be well-balanced with

Two Beethoven Sonatas
bracketing
a minor work by Mozart
two short Etudes of Chopin
and a set of Chopin Nocturnes

There seems to be a preponderance of the key of C.

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#537347 - 03/07/08 03:45 PM Re: Revised Recital  
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Originally posted by dnephi:
Classical Classical Romantic Classical

And you also have two unrelated Beethoven sonatas, plus another classical larger form.

It seems just weird.
I don't see anything unbalanced about the program in terms of what you said. I've seen programs like this on numerous recitals by great pianists in NYC.

#537348 - 03/07/08 03:58 PM Re: Revised Recital  
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What was the other classical larger form? I hope not the fantasia lol.. But what does it matter if the beethoven sonatas are unrelated? Ive been to concerts that play only chopin and the audience loves it. I dont think the periods make that much of a difference. The beethoven sonatas are very exciting. Audiences usually love Beethoven sonatas.


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#537349 - 03/07/08 07:43 PM Re: Revised Recital  
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Why not:

Mozart: Fantasia No.3 in Dm K. 397
Beethoven: Sonata Op.13 in Cm "Pathetique"
Beethoven: Sonata Op.27-2 in C#m "Moonlight"

Intermission

Chopin: 3 Nocturnes Op.9
Chopin: Etude Op.10-1 in C
Chopin: Etude OP.10-12 in Cm "Revolutionary"

#537350 - 03/07/08 07:46 PM Re: Revised Recital  
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I agree with Debussy a little bit, that sounds better balanced. I also think ending with the Pathetique would be nice a little bit too. It depends on what kind of sound you want to leave with the audience.

You're not playing any Bach??


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#537351 - 03/07/08 08:00 PM Re: Revised Recital  
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I like the sound of the Chopin op 10 no 12 closing out the concert... unless you have encores planned. Do you?

#537352 - 03/07/08 09:30 PM Re: Revised Recital  
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Hi I am new here.
How about
Chopin: Etude Op.10-1 in C
Chopin: Etude OP.10-12 in Cm "Revolutionary
Chopin: 3 Nocturnes Op.9
Beethoven: Sonata Op.27-2 in C#m "Moonlight"

Inter....
Mozart
Bee Pathetic
Encore

#537353 - 03/07/08 09:31 PM Re: Revised Recital  
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second half may be too short...

#537354 - 03/07/08 11:30 PM Re: Revised Recital  
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How about:

Mozart: Fantasy in d minor
Beethoven: Pathetique Sonata
Chopin: Etude in C Major
intermission
Beethoven: Moonlight Sonata
Chopin: Three Nocturnes, Opus 9
Chopin: Revolutionary Etude

If you had a few other filler pieces by other composers, it might be helpful.

#537355 - 03/08/08 10:18 AM Re: Revised Recital  
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Originally posted by Debussy20:
Why not:

Mozart: Fantasia No.3 in Dm K. 397
Beethoven: Sonata Op.13 in Cm "Pathetique"
Beethoven: Sonata Op.27-2 in C#m "Moonlight"

Intermission

Chopin: 3 Nocturnes Op.9
Chopin: Etude Op.10-1 in C
Chopin: Etude OP.10-12 in Cm "Revolutionary"

#537356 - 03/08/08 10:20 AM Re: Revised Recital  
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Originally posted by Debussy20:
Why not:

Mozart: Fantasia No.3 in Dm K. 397
Beethoven: Sonata Op.13 in Cm "Pathetique"
Beethoven: Sonata Op.27-2 in C#m "Moonlight"

Intermission

Chopin: 3 Nocturnes Op.9
Chopin: Etude Op.10-1 in C
Chopin: Etude OP.10-12 in Cm "Revolutionary"
The second half would be very short. I'd estimate 20-25 minutes.

#537357 - 03/08/08 11:12 AM Re: Revised Recital  
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Originally posted by JBiegel:
How about:

Mozart: Fantasy in d minor
Beethoven: Pathetique Sonata
Chopin: Etude in C Major
intermission
Beethoven: Moonlight Sonata
Chopin: Three Nocturnes, Opus 9
Chopin: Revolutionary Etude

If you had a few other filler pieces by other composers, it might be helpful.
You can also decide to put one of those Opus 9 Nocturnes before the C Major Etude. This way, you end each half with a brilliant etude. Finishing brilliantly the first half allows you to open the second half with a substantial work other than all shorter Chopin pieces, and the 'Moonlight' sets a nice mood after the last tones of the Etude before intermission.

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Originally posted by Debussy20:
Why not:

Mozart: Fantasia No.3 in Dm K. 397
Beethoven: Sonata Op.13 in Cm "Pathetique"
Beethoven: Sonata Op.27-2 in C#m "Moonlight"

Intermission

Chopin: 3 Nocturnes Op.9
Chopin: Etude Op.10-1 in C
Chopin: Etude OP.10-12 in Cm "Revolutionary"
I would suggest not because the first portion of the programme would run approximately 40 minutes, while the second portion would barely run 20 minutes. The audience would be expecting a more substantial work somewhere in the second half of the programme, I would think.

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#537359 - 03/08/08 02:09 PM Re: Revised Recital  
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Originally posted by JBiegel:
[b] How about:

Mozart: Fantasy in d minor
Beethoven: Pathetique Sonata
Chopin: Etude in C Major
intermission
Beethoven: Moonlight Sonata
Chopin: Three Nocturnes, Opus 9
Chopin: Revolutionary Etude

If you had a few other filler pieces by other composers, it might be helpful.
You can also decide to put one of those Opus 9 Nocturnes before the C Major Etude. This way, you end each half with a brilliant etude. Finishing brilliantly the first half allows you to open the second half with a substantial work other than all shorter Chopin pieces, and the 'Moonlight' sets a nice mood after the last tones of the Etude before intermission. [/b]
Hence, the balancing of each Sonata per half.

#537360 - 03/10/08 09:33 AM Re: Revised Recital  
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I could learn the Cm Bach P/F from book 1. But i figured it would make it too long..


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#537361 - 03/10/08 01:33 PM Re: Revised Recital  
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I could learn the Cm Bach P/F from book 1. But i figured it would make it too long..
More C?

I don't like the idea of splitting the etudes in order to have an etude to end each half. Plus, I think the third movement of the Moonlight is a good ending to a program.

You might consider closing the 1st half of the concert with the nocturnes and opening the 2nd half with the Mozart and Etudes.


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