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Re: Your Favorite Chopin Nocturne? #536587
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Originally posted by hopinmad:
No one else has voted the beautiful E major nocturne? eek

Strange this one, doesn't seem as popular . . .I cannot see why!
I'm very fond of that one, hopinmad, but we were asked to choose one, so just because no-one put this as #1 doesn't mean it isn't popular. I'm sure many of us love them all.


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Re: Your Favorite Chopin Nocturne? #536588
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Originally posted by hopinmad:
No one else has voted the beautiful E major nocturne? eek

Strange this one, doesn't seem as popular . . .I cannot see why!
I did, but mentioned it second after 55/2. This is my take on why it isn't more popular:

It's typical late Chopin, and perhaps its appeal is therefore less straightforward and somewhat elusive compared to earlier pieces whose charms are transparent and immediately accessible. I think that the Nocturne 55/2 (even though it did get some votes here!), the Prelude Op. 45 and the Impromptu Op. 51 are in this same category.

Also, the main theme of 62/2, while nice enough and a beautiful example of Chopin's bel canto writing, is probably not found to be one of his most beautiful and inspired melodies.

The most compelling features of 62/2 for me are the marvelous, churning, multi-layered agitato section, and the tranquility of the transitional passage that leads to the agitato and finally returns to close the piece.

Steven

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Originally posted by hopinmad:
No one else has voted the beautiful E major nocturne? eek

Strange this one, doesn't seem as popular . . .I cannot see why!
If I had voted, I think my choice would have been either that one or the other in op. 62. But choosing was too hard, so I didn't vote.

Re: Your Favorite Chopin Nocturne? #536590
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Is voting over? I vote for E major!

Re: Your Favorite Chopin Nocturne? #536591
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my current fav is op55/1 which I am very excited to be working on now. I dont think I've heard a more sorrowful melody then the one that starts this piece. That semitone clash as the melody goes into the major in the first section, then the triplets when the opening melody is played again...how can it be so beautiful and so sad at the same time?


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Re: Your Favorite Chopin Nocturne? #536592
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Originally posted by pianarchist:
[...]how can it be so beautiful and so sad at the same time?
(Percy Bysshe) Shelley (1792-1822), the English Romantic poet, realized it could be so:

"Our sincerest laughter
With some pain is fraught;
Our sweetest songs are those that tell of saddest thought."

from "To a Skylark"

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"Our sincerest laughter
With some pain is fraught;
Our sweetest songs are those that tell of saddest thought."

from "To a Skylark"

It is true


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Re: Your Favorite Chopin Nocturne? #536594
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Originally posted by sotto voce:
I had a feeling that 9/3 in B major wouldn't be mentioned by anybody else (yet, anyway). If anyone is unfamiliar with it, I recommend checking it out. It's unusual in a number of respects:
  • It's the only Nocturne with the tempo Allegretto;
  • The gentle, genial, wistful main theme is also marked scherzando, the only occurrence (to my knowledge) of that indication in all the Nocturnes;
  • The Agitato "B" section does not "lie well under the hands" at all (well, the left hand, anyway)—something that's pretty darn unusual for Chopin! (I no longer use the term pianistic to describe that quality :p );
  • The coda and closing measures are exquisitely elegant, as is the transition from the Agitato back to the return of the main theme; and
  • It's long!


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9/3 is my favorite too heart

smile

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Re: Your Favorite Chopin Nocturne? #536595
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I looked at the tally that Bruce so graciously posted.

And I wonder why the 48.1 seems to be the most popular. What is it about that piece of music that makes it so dear to so many?

Any ideas?

Kathleen


After playing Chopin, I feel as if I had been weeping over sins that I had never committed, and mourning over tragedies that were not my own." Oscar Wilde, 1891
Re: Your Favorite Chopin Nocturne? #536596
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Absolutely Op. 27 No. 1, and quite possibly because of the E-sharp. I get goosebumps listening to this piece.

I also like Op. 72 No. 1 very much, as well as Op. 37 No. 1 (which I also love to teach).


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Re: Your Favorite Chopin Nocturne? #536597
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And I wonder why the 48.1 seems to be the most popular. What is it about that piece of music that makes it so dear to so many?
-a beautiful melody, in a beautiful key (I love C min and C# min);
-varying moods (at least this is how I see them): mournful and melancholy/ peaceful, calm, happy/agitated and fiery/sense of urgency, tragic

The end effect is that it wrings you out like a washcloth! But you enjoy the experience.

Re: Your Favorite Chopin Nocturne? #536598
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My absolute favorite nocturne is the C minor Nocturne, Op. 48, No. 1. 3hearts

Check out this rendition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MzrAGZHDvo

The first time I heard this piece was at my Chemistry professor's summer party, and one of his former students played it magnificently. Been etched in my memory ever since. It's one of the few Chopin pieces I played in college.

I also like the C-sharp minor Nocturne, Op. Posthumous. But it's not in the same league as Op. 48, No. 1.


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Re: Your Favorite Chopin Nocturne? #536599
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When it comes to the Chopin Nocturnes, I seem to change my mind as time goes by...

Now, I have a hard time choosing beetween op 27 no 1 (C# minor) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAcAWWU_0mE
(this is a reason to love youtube)

and the E major 62 no 2 that develops so masterly.

I'm afraid I'm not able to choose wink

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Re: Your Favorite Chopin Nocturne? #536600
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Originally posted by loveschopintoomuch:
I looked at the tally that Bruce so graciously posted.

And I wonder why the 48.1 seems to be the most popular. What is it about that piece of music that makes it so dear to so many?

Any ideas?

Kathleen
I can't say exactly why, but the opening page of the Chopin reminds me of the opening the Schubert f minor Fantasy in the sense that if it didn't have the haunting melody at the opening it might not be quite as popular as it is.

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27.2 and 37.2

Re: Your Favorite Chopin Nocturne? #536602
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FWIW and not quite on topic, but :

I played four of my favourites in recital, yesterday :

Op. posth. C-sharp minor
Op. 15, No 2 in F-sharp major
Op. 37, No 1 in G minor
Op. 37, No 2 in G major

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I played four of my favourites in recital, yesterday :

Op. posth. C-sharp minor
Op. 15, No 2 in F-sharp major
Op. 37, No 1 in G minor
Op. 37, No 2 in G major
Nice selection, Bruce - hope it went well!


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op.27 no.2 ofc

I think that this nocturne really captures the true nature of nocturnes. Even left alone hand is incredibly beautiful and it is similar through whole piece. It is "fluid" and tranquil and there are not strong (and chordal) passages like in op.48/1. In my opinion those forte-passages belongs to something else than nocturnes. I usually listen to is once or twice before falling asleep :]

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