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any advice on baby grand Samick SG -155, please #50201
09/08/07 07:13 PM
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I have lurking on the forum intermittently but I just registered as a member.
I have been shopping around for a used piano for about a year- for my two kids ages 7 and 9 who have been taking lessons (in the piano teacher's house)and are doing average. I have the space at home for a baby grand and I just looked at a Samick SG-155 which is being sold in my neighborhood.

The owners has had it from new, more than 10 years ago, and it was used by their kids who no longer play and it is now basically a piece of furniture in their home. To my untrained eye, it is in perfect condition without a scratch or blemish. My 9 year old tested it by playing ?"Canon in D major"? and again it sounded perfect to my tone deaf ears, even though according to the owner, it hasn't been tuned in about four years.

I would appreciate any opinion or answer to the following,

1. The asking price is 3000 dollars(USA). Is this a fair price for this piano?

2. Is this a good instrument for the kids to use for lessons at home? I suspect the kids will play it for the next six years or so and then move on and it will become a piece of furniture. We actually like it for that purpose too and like I said, physically, it appears flawless.

3. someone on another thread said something about dreaming they were playing a piano and it was a nightmare because it was a Samick. I guess that was a joke but I do want to know if there are any major issues with the brand. I am planning to get a piano tech to inspect it before purchase.

Thank you


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Re: any advice on baby grand Samick SG -155, please #50202
09/08/07 08:05 PM
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Hi Cmajor13,

If you followed all the collective advice you will get here on this forum, you would never buy any piano ever. The comments about the Samick you mentioned are a perfect example of what I am talking about. Some here would tell you to run away from a Steinway.

Personally, based on my very limited experience with pianos, I think your Samick prospect is a great deal, but others will tell you to run away from it as fast as you can.

I was going to purchase a 20 year old G-175 (5'8")D.H. Baldwin, which is a Samick with the D.H. Baldwin name on it, for $3000 but the seller changed his mind over the weekend and gave me my deposit back; a few days later I saw the same piano back on Craigslist for $4500; But that is another story. Anyway, the piano sounded good to me. I was willing to pay $3000 but not $4500 (I hope he got his price).

Have a tech check it out for you before you buy. I think it is a very reasonable deal myself. Plus, you are neighbors with the seller.

(Disclaimer: all the advice you get here is worth about what you pay for it.)

Hope this helps.

Rickster


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Re: any advice on baby grand Samick SG -155, please #50203
09/08/07 10:43 PM
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I think your Samick prospect is a great deal, but others will tell you to run away from it as fast as you can.
Just as Rickster warned, the opposite advice is coming.....not really opposite, just cautionary.

More people want to get rid of old Samick grands than want to buy them. If it's a Samick grand that you want, you can get a little larger and little newer for this price. So, if you really like this particular piano, you might try to knock down the price a little. You could show the seller some price comps from cragislist or eBay.


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Re: any advice on baby grand Samick SG -155, please #50204
09/09/07 05:24 AM
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The Samick SG-155 was made in South Korea. 3K no tax from a private party is a fair realistic asking price. 10 years ago that piano retailed for close to 10K and sold(discount price)for 7-8K new. Most sellers(dealers and private parties) are still trying to sell these preowned 10-20 year old Korean pianos for 5K+ The better Chinese pianos at present are probably superior to that Samick new but for 3K it is a good deal. What other newer baby grand(new or preowned could you acquire for that pricepoint.
As long it is of low milage not being subjected to any detrimental conditions,I would say go for it. If it is showing signs of crustiness being heavily used, I would pass on it at any price. It doesn't sound like thats the case.
The SG was a superior piano to Samicks later TG series and the low low end series of Yamaha and Kawai.


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Re: any advice on baby grand Samick SG -155, please #50205
09/09/07 10:06 AM
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The 155 is a nice scale, IMHO. Have the piano checked out by an independent tech. These pianos had some prep issues when new and many dealers simply did not do what they could have to alleviate some easily corrected problems.

There are other issues from use that the piano can be suffering from as well. A good tech. will protect you from the wrong choice.

Other than that, I dont have an issue with the asking price - or the piano.

Good Luck,


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Re: any advice on baby grand Samick SG -155, please #50206
09/09/07 02:48 PM
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Rich and Broker,

From what you guys are saying, it sounds like a Samick SG series grand has the potential to be a very nice instrument for very little money. This is useful information to anyone shopping for a not-too-old grand at a really low price. Samick SG's make regular appearances on eBay and Craigslist at pretty low prices, although as Broker says they may be heavily used and 'crusty'.

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What other newer baby grand(new or preowned could you acquire for that pricepoint.
That's an interesting question too. Is the SG series as good as it gets at this pricepoint, or are there other candidates?


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Re: any advice on baby grand Samick SG -155, please #50207
09/09/07 07:28 PM
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I really appreciate all the responses, thank you all very much.

The Piano Tech will be inspecting the instrument later in the week and unless there are really serious and unfixable issues found, I should be making the purchase. I "felt good" about the piano the first time I laid my eyes on it and my wife and the kids felt good too, but what do we know!

If it was possible, I wouldn't mind spending another several hundred dollars to spruce up or "pimp" the sound of the piano, similar to the way I see cars "pimped" on television. Is it possible for a Piano Tech to customise the sound of this piano?


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Re: any advice on baby grand Samick SG -155, please #50208
09/09/07 07:55 PM
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"pimp that piano with a Steinway supercharger You have to use genuine OEM Steinway parts. "pimp that ride" Basically the same concept. They both need to be fine tuned. You can have the tuner tech/mechanic tune,voice and service your piano than have him tune up your car in the driveway. Kill two birds with one service call


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Re: any advice on baby grand Samick SG -155, please #50209
09/14/07 11:56 PM
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yippie

UPDATE. I had the piano checked two days ago and the tech gave me the thumbs up. No major issues, no overuse or abuse. The seller took out the cost of the professional movers from the asking price and 48 hours later the Samick is sitting in my living room corner. It looks even more beautiful than when I first saw it. Black ebony gloss!

I am the one of the most happy men in Western Pennsylvania tonight and the kids are so excited they can't eat properly. Piano tech says we should let the Piano sit for four weeks before she comes back to tune it.

Thanks again to all who responded.

<blockquote>pimp that piano with a Steinway supercharger You have to use genuine OEM Steinway parts</blockquote>

Pianobroker, if some television executive picks up on this idea and we end up seeing "extreme makeover, piano edition" on Cable TV, my Samick deserves to the first or I will name you as a witness for the plaintiff in a copyright/intellectual property theft lawsuit. wink


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Re: any advice on baby grand Samick SG -155, please #50210
09/15/07 12:11 AM
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Congratulations. You got a very decent piano for a good price. Now it's time to enjoy!


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Re: any advice on baby grand Samick SG -155, please #50211
09/15/07 01:12 PM
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Enjoy your new Samick. I like the tone of Samick. I found them more mellow than most other Asian makes.


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