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Landler, Sarabande, Bouree...what do these look like?
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along with Allemande, Gigue, Courante, Anglais, etc.

I've encountered a lot of these terms in my piano studies and I know they're all dances (right?) but I'm wondering what they looked like. Not for any musical reason necessarily (though I'm curious what a Landler looks like since I'm learning Beethoven's Op 79 sonata which includes a section that's supposed to resemble a landler).

Is there some site that shows what these dances look like? I tried a rudimentary YouTube search that didn't yield anything except the music pieces without any dance videos.


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Originally posted by Ovaltine:
(though I'm curious what a Landler looks like since I'm learning Beethoven's Op 79 sonata which includes a section that's supposed to resemble a landler).
I don't know how authentic it is, but have you seen The Sound of Music? laugh Remember the bit where Julie Andrews is trying to teach one of the little boys to dance the Ländler? And then Christopher Plummer cuts in smile . It's about halfway through. I suspect a real Ländler would look a bit more rustic and not so ballroom...


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Thanks. It's been decades since I've last watch The Sound of Music. But I do remember the "little goatherd". I see some other examples of that song on YouTube as well. Apparently an authentic ländler includes some impressive pretzel moves with your partner while keeping ahold of their hands.


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Hmm... a YouTube search reveals a ton of stuff - you just have to be persistent!

Ländlerisch

Ländler

Allemande - very interesting.

Chaconne & Gigue I'm not sure if this is historically correct - but it is entertaining; you can read some of the comments on YouTube.

Menuet à Quatre and Menuet de la Reine

Branles d\'Escosse, Gavotte - a fascinating reconstruction.

Sarabande - with some interesting caveats in the commentary.

Courante

Musette

Bourrée

Here is the only Loure I could find - unfortunately it is without sound and hard to see.

An Anglaise is hard to find, but there are several examples of Gigues Anglaises, of which this is one.

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Sorry I didn't notice your reply till just now. Thanks very much Whippen. This is great stuff.


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I am not sure that the "goatherd" can be a ländler, as the ländler is in triple time, whereas the goatherd is in quadruple. The ländler was a forerunner of the waltz.

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You're right about the Lonely Goatherd not being in 3/4 time, but Currawong was referring not to the marionette show scene where the Lonely Goatherd theme was first heard, but the scene outside a formal function , done in 3/4 time, with emphasis on the second beat.


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Goatherd is a polka. I have a zillion of all of the above. Check out your local dance shoppe...

Edelweiss is a waltz. 16/17 is a gavotte. The Sound of Music is an iffy adage. Do re mi is a coda. Climb every mountain is an iffy adage. Goodbye adieu is a two-step. Maria is a tendu. Favorite things is a ronds de jambe en l'air...

Not my favorite score. Anything by Cole Porter is more fun...

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Originally posted by Auntie Lynn:
Goatherd is a polka. I have a zillion of all of the above. Check out your local dance shoppe...
Edelweiss is a waltz. 16/17 is a gavotte. The Sound of Music is an iffy adage. Do re mi is a coda. Climb every mountain is an iffy adage. Goodbye adieu is a two-step. Maria is a tendu. Favorite things is a ronds de jambe en l'air...
Not my favorite score. Anything by Cole Porter is more fun...
smile Sound of Music not one of your favourite things, eh?

Ovaltine is right - in my post I wasn't referring to any songs in Sound of Music, but the scene where they dance a Ländler. (incidentally, whippen boy's links are good! )


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I would think that the first of the Brahms Liebeslieder is a La(e)ndler.


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Hmm... a YouTube search reveals a ton of stuff - you just have to be persistent!

Just got around to looking at those clips. YouTube is just amazing; very interesting stuff. Thanks.

Here are a few more YouTube clips that are background in one way or another to music we might play -

Tarantella

(there are a zillion tarantellas on YouTube, just search on the word)

Krakowiak

Lesginka

I see now where the frantic tempo of the Liapunov version comes from. There a good number of lezginka clips on YouTube, BTW; it seems a very popular dance on its home turf.

Malambo

If you ever wondered about that dance rhythm that was so characteristic of Ginastera's music, here's the source. There are a lot of malambo clips on YouTube. And there's a wild variant that involves whirling and bouncing weights on the ends of cords. Boleadoras

Verbunk
This is what is called a "recruiting dance", which has always seems a little odd as a concept to me. Anyway, there are lots of them, and this is just one. Liszt, Dvorak, Weiner, Bartok, and others were influenced by them.

There is much more, but I need a rest; all that dancing can wear you out. YouTube is a real treasure trove of this kind of stuff and it has really changed how I hear some classical music.

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IF you are still looking for landlers, Josef Strauss, Josef Lanner, Schubert, et al, wrote a ton of them...

The best lesginka is in Gayne...


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