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I think an important point to consider is that George Sands was a Dyke. This is explains her male pseudonym and her habit of dressing in male attire towards the end of her peculiar life. Chopin's desire was sublimated into the great music he produced as you all should know from your Freud. Now consider this one: Chopin was weak, foppish and effeminate in manner but George Sands was strong, independant, terse and masculine by contrast. What are we to make of that one? confused


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[QUOTE]A gay friend of mine once said that he wants a man, and not a man being a girl. If he wanted a girl, he'd get the real thing...{/QUOTE]

My gay friends say exactly the same.
Right, and I've heard it too. But usually, gay guys that act like girls pair with other gay guys that act like girls. They still ogle the fitness magazine cover model guys, but date the fems. I think one needs to identify with who one connects with, be able to see yourself in that person.

That being said, I remember once in Hollywood, I saw a lesbian couple walking down the street. One was an enormous, butch, biker, manly lez, would make Rosie O'Donnel feminine by comparison. And on her arm was a hot chick worthy of a playboy centerfold. ?!?!!? Couldn't help thinking 'wuzzup with that?' I mean we all understand the butch chicks motivation, but what is the hot chick thinking? Not to sound superficial, like its all about looks, its not. these two had entirely contrasting identifications.

Things like that make me officially admit I dont understand anything.


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This thread could serve as an FBI profiler's roster under, "piano playing perverts."


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This thread could serve as an FBI profiler's roster under, "piano playing perverts."
I notice you made sure you got your name included. :rolleyes:


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George Sand was a lesbian? If she was, why did she have so many male lovers? I thought "George Sand" was a pen-name, since society looked down on female authors, especially when they wrote about such racy topics wink


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there is no documented affair between gould and a male partner/friend. a lack of intimate, on-the-record relationships with females does not automatically make one a homosexual.

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I think an important point to consider is that George Sands was a Dyke. This is explains her male pseudonym and her habit of dressing in male attire towards the end of her peculiar life. Chopin's desire was sublimated into the great music he produced as you all should know from your Freud. Now consider this one: Chopin was weak, foppish and effeminate in manner but George Sands was strong, independant, terse and masculine by contrast. What are we to make of that one? confused
That she proposed to him? Or maybe he wore the dress? :p wink


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a lack of intimate...relationships with females does not automatically make one a homosexual.
not automatically, but over time it can wear you down. :p


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There is no evidence that Gould was gay. He was so germ phobic, the thought of Gould having sex with anyone boggles the mind.

I don't know if it was mentioned here before, but Earl Wild is openly gay. His partner of 30 years, Michael Davis, is also his record producer.


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my pastor said that probably 95% of pianists or organists were homosexual, according to his experience, b/c he's hired several organists that swug the 'other way'. but i disagree with that, though.


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ummm....i'm not gay....and none of the piano majors at my school are gay...i do believe your pastor is wrong. there's a difference between several and 95%.


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It's interesting...is your pastor married? wink


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George Sand was a lesbian? If she was, why did she have so many male lovers? I thought "George Sand" was a pen-name, since society looked down on female authors, especially when they wrote about such racy topics wink
George Sand was simply a pen name that took on a life of its own. Aurore Dupin (George Sand) wrote a novel jointly with her then lover Jules Sandeau. She wanted him to publish it under his name, he insisted that she share the credit. "Sand" came for "Sandeau". "George" came from St. George's day when they came up with the plan. Aurore Dupin did have one tender relationship with an actress, at a time when she was feeling abused and traumatized after ending her marriage, but she soon returned to her true orientation.


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ummm....i'm not gay....and none of the piano majors at my school are gay...
Very interesting. How do you know that they are all straight?


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[b] ummm....i'm not gay....and none of the piano majors at my school are gay...
Very interesting. How do you know that they are all straight? [/b]
Trial and error? :p


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[b] ummm....i'm not gay....and none of the piano majors at my school are gay...
Very interesting. How do you know that they are all straight? [/b]
Trial and error? :p [/b]
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haha... :rolleyes: :p I know because there are only 11 of us at my school ( 6 male, 5 female). 3 of the girls (myself excluded) have boyfriends/fiances, and 4 of the guys have girlfriends. I know about the others because, well, come on...it's a small music department...word gets around fast....


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i love those smileys, Sam!...oh how true they are.... :p


That's right...I have the same birthday as Mozart. If only it meant something and I could have one thousandth of his genius...in my dreams, i suppose.
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