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Re: Let's Talk Practice Time
#495159 12/18/08 07:55 PM
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Welcome back, Amelia.


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Hey Amelia,

When you say you take a break every week, what do you mean, exactly? Do you take one day a week off, or a light practice day, or...?

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Thanks Frycek! smile

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Hey Amelia,

When you say you take a break every week, what do you mean, exactly? Do you take one day a week off, or a light practice day, or...?
When I say I take a break, i mean 1 day off the piano or if I do touch it I just enjoy myself as well as one light practice day


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[b] I'm also wondering if the idea of talent vs. diligence is a large factor in the practice time discrepancy. There are hose that get by on natural talent, and those that have to chug away like robots for the same final product.

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You're right, of course, but that's become a controversial and rather unpopular thing to acknowledge (in the Teachers' Forum and the Adult Beginners' Forum, anyway).

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I do think there is such a thing as talent. One cannot ignore the fact that genetics does play a role in how well we can do things. It is something that must be cultivated, however. If one doesn't do the hard work to learn a good technique, how to read well, how to play expressively, then it just won't happen magically.


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[b] I'm also wondering if the idea of talent vs. diligence is a large factor in the practice time discrepancy. There are hose that get by on natural talent, and those that have to chug away like robots for the same final product.

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You're right, of course, but that's become a controversial and rather unpopular thing to acknowledge (in the Teachers' Forum and the Adult Beginners' Forum, anyway).

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I do think there is such a thing as talent. One cannot ignore the fact that genetics does play a role in how well we can do things. It is something that must be cultivated, however. If one doesn't do the hard work to learn a good technique, how to read well, how to play expressively, then it just won't happen magically. [/b]
ok, i'm going to add something, since i belong to the category of talented students. I don't call myself talented, rather others do.

even for talented students, they still need good teachers, and to cultivate that talent as Morodiene says alot, in fact hours of hard work needs to be put in.

others who are not like me often say "oh, you're so talented, you play so beautifully etc., so it must be easy for you". and even students who i know in school keep pointing that out but they do not know how many hours I set aside to practice and listen to music every day or almost every day.

so even talented students have to work, sometimes, harder then others


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Exactly, Amy. And I also think that those who say someone is talented after hearing them perform, has no idea of the hard work involved. They just think if you're talented it all comes naturally with minimal work.


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Exactly, Amy. And I also think that those who say someone is talented after hearing them perform, has no idea of the hard work involved. They just think if you're talented it all comes naturally with minimal work.
by the way Morodiene, Amy just happens to be my nickname haha...my mom almost called me Amy instead of Amelia

Thanks! It is so rare to have someone who agrees with me laugh


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even students who i know in school keep pointing that out but they do not know how many hours I set aside to practice and listen to music every day or almost every day.
Amelia, thanks for this -- listening on a regular basis stands out for me from your post as something I have to give some serious attention to!!

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you're welcome! glad that I could help...I only started this a yr back and it has made a sig difference in my playing


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It depends on what one wishes to achieve.

Expansion of repertoire is the true time consumer, but if one wishes to improve facility it is better to have very short sessions.

I often do as little as half an hour every other day and see consistent improvement.


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