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I've been Chopin wood all afternoon, and boy are my arms tired.

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Frederic Chopin is both a Frenchification and an Anglicization of his Polish name, so pronouncing it Show-pan, or Shop-in doesn't really matter so long as you're aware of that....

Polish words like Andrzej and Janusz look much harder but again, this is due to different consonant systems to English, and in some cases, French.
If it were a Polish name it would be pronounced KHO-peen (KH being the gutteral fricative like at the end of Bach).

The strange diphthongs in Polish (and Serbo-Croatian, etc.) are a result of trying to use Roman letters to write a Slavic language.

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ellaella,

In a somewhat more serious vein than my previous post here, the way I pronounce it is the way Badger suggested. However there was the follow-up post by Matt G. that properly noted that many people don't know how to pronounce the French word for bread: "pain."

This probably doesn't help, but I would say the pronunciation of pain is the first syllable of "panic," That is "pa" but with just a hint of the "n" sound that follows.


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Originally posted by pianojuggler:
The strange diphthongs in Polish (and Serbo-Croatian, etc.) are a result of trying to use Roman letters to write a Slavic language.
I'm sure you meant digraphs, not diphthongs.

All the above notwithstanding, Chopin is not a Polish name, it is a French name, as Frédéric (Fryderyk, if you prefer) was born to a French father and a Polish mother. If the name Chopin were transliterated into Polish, it might come out Szopę or something similar. I am, however, acquainted with a Polish family named Szopinski, for whatever that's worth....


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Oof. I was asleep at the switch. I deserve to have my red pencil taken away.

A diphthong is a vowel movement.

I humbly and sincerely apologize to my fellow linguists.

Although in my defense, the 'ja' at the beginning of 'Janusz' is a diphthong.

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I believe the first syllable would be pronounced somewhere between "show" and "shaw". For the second syllable say the word "and" then drop the "nd"


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"This probably doesn't help, but I would say the pronunciation of pain is the first syllable of "panic," That is "pa" but with just a hint of the "n" sound that follows. "

It helps.It's the closest english example to the french pronunciation.In "Chopin",that is.

"....who cares, go PLAY some polonaises!"

I care.For me it's somehow a matter of respect trying to be as close as You can to the proper pronunciation


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I've always been taught to say show-pan. However, I once heard someone pronounce it that way, and someone else criticized them for it. Maybe it's supposed to be show-pawn, but that sounds too British for me.

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I think B flat minor or whoever the h*** thinks he is has a bit of an attitude problem


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I think B flat minor or whoever the h*** thinks he is has a bit of an attitude problem
His mom took away his Doctor Dreadful play set and he's been bitter ever since.


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I think B flat minor or whoever the h*** thinks he is has a bit of an attitude problem
No more bumpie..

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Chopin's original surname was Szopen, a Polish name. It was Frankified when he went to Paris so the conventions of French pronunciation apply to "Chopin".

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Pronounce it like it sounds. "CHOP - INN" like Holiday Inn, except with Chop like how you would pronounce Chopsticks. Or if you're a lumberjack, when people ask you what you are doing, you might say "Chopin' wood", that's how you say it.

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