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greatest of the WTC #475799
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Since there's a thread about the greatest non-Bach fugues, I think it appropriate that we discuss the greatest Bach fugues. As the WTC has 48 of them, it seems like a good place to look for potential candidates. What do you think?

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WTC I, C# minor. Five voices, not including God's.


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WTC 1, B flat minor
WTC 1, B minor


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Maybe not the greatest, but certainly one of my favorites (I'm not familiar with the entire WTC):

Fugue in D Minor, WTC I


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My favorite fugue of all time is Contrapunctus 3 from the AoF.


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Ooohh... listening to the B Minor from Book 1...

Thanks, BZ4!


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book 1
c#min
f min
b min

book 2
C# Maj (greatest joke fugue ever)
D# min

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book 2
C# Maj (greatest joke fugue ever)
Greater than the P.D.Q. Bach "Fuga Meshuga" (from The Musical Sacrifice)?


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well, let's say greatest non-extrareferrential joke fugue.

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My current faves are the ones I'm working on in Book II; Prelude 14 F# minor and Prelude 18 G# minor.. I like that fugue too.. but will probably take a long break before I learn it... My next favorite will probably be Prelude #3 in what is probably C# minor. All these compete with the D minor fugue in Book 1, which would be my favorite if I hadn't gone exploring in the 2nd book.


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fugue no.10 in WTC1 is great, although it's only a 2-part fugue.

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While we're on the WTC, who do you guys like for recordings?


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Book 1 - C# minor, F# minor, Bb Minor

Art of Fugue - 1 and 14(the only ones I can play smile )


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While we're on the WTC, who do you guys like for recordings?
Glenn Gould, Andras Schiff, Peter Tausig.

I still haven't heard Angela Hewitt's, but I'm a big fan of her Bach playing in general.

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While we're on the WTC, who do you guys like for recordings?
The Russians:

Richter, Feinberg, Nikolayeva

Edwin Fischer is also quite good.

I dislike Schiff's and Gould's recordings, though technically they are quite good.


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3. C sharp major book 1, fantastic and IMO hardest one.

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Originally posted by Eusebius:
While we're on the WTC, who do you guys like for recordings?
Complete (influence of iamcanadian showing here):
Feinberg
Richter
Fischer

Partial:
Horszowski
Sokolov
Demidenko
Evlyn Howard-Jones
Maurice Cole

Single P&Fs:
B minor Book 1 - Yuri Egorov
Eb minor Book 1 - Mikhail Kazakevich


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My current favourite WTC is Koroliov. Alongside his Inventions/Sinfonias and Art of Fugue it is his best Bach.

I also like Gould, Richter and have soft spots for Schiff and Roberts. (Does anyone know Bernard Roberts Partitas? I note that he has the French Suites coming out in May and am wondering if this is turning into a Bach series that I need to collect.)

Always found Fischer difficult to warm to (I know this is considered sacrilege...).

Personal favourite fugue: WTC I, F minor. The two entries of the subject in the major, which appear sounding like chorale melodies, get me every time.

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Oh yes, Andrew - I forgot Bernard Roberts; I like his WTC very much.

I've not heard his Partitas. I was going to pick them up, but I've been completely smitten by Andrew Rangell's recording - really fantastic, IMO.


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I vote for C# minor, Eb minor and B minor of WTC1,
and D Maj and E Maj from WTC2.

However, Bach reserved his best fugues for the Organ and there the E minor (wedge), Eb major (Clavieruebung III), B minor (Great P&F), C major (coupled with 9/8 Prelude), D minor (Dorian), F major (with Tocatta) are my favorites. I've probably missed a few other favs like C minor (wi Passacaglia) and D major (awesome footwork) come to mind.

From AoF I like Contrpuncti VII and XI and the Ricercari from the Musical Offering aint bad either.

Ah Bach, I love that grumpy old guy.

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