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Key signatures of the blues scale #460570
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Hello all.I am practicing the Major Blues Scales.In the G Major Blues Scale,in the key signature there is 1 sharp which is F#.The notes of this scale are:G,A,Bb,B natural,D,E,G.The fey signature has the one F#,yet the scale notes do not have F#.Please explain.Thank you.Tango

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Re: Key signatures of the blues scale #460571
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I just answered this in another thread. Scales don't have key signatures.


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In a swing jazz context, the G major blues scale would most often be played over a tune that has a G major key signature, for example if you played Take The A Train or I Got Rhythm in the key of G instead of the usual standard keys. In an actual authentic 12 bar blues blues context (G7 tonic) the F would be natural, but it would still get published with a G major key signature.


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Except that the dominant (D7) is used and it does have an F#.


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Re: Key signatures of the blues scale #460574
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Originally posted by Tango:
Hello all. I am practicing the Major Blues Scales. In the G Major Blues Scale, in the key signature there is 1 sharp which is f#. The notes of this scale are: G,A,Bb,B natural, D,E,G. The key signature has the one F#, yet the scale notes do not have F#. Please explain. Thank you. Tango [/QB

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That's a great question!

I'm not really sure. Always just played the blues scales as they are and you are right, they do not have the key signature written in.

I've always just used this formula.

(T+st) T st st (T+st) T (Blues formula)
(example) G Bb C Db D(natural) F G
(no key signature to indicate the F is sharp.)

On Blues' charts however, the Bass Clef "has" the key signature written in when it indicates the I7, IV7, and V7, and therefore accidentals are added in because the key signature "is" there.

If you are playing a blues piece, the key signature, however, is always written in and therefore accidentals would be used to make the F in a G major piece, sharp or natural.

Geeesh! Now you've go me thinking!

Thanks for the question.


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Re: Key signatures of the blues scale #460575
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Hold on a minute!

You are talking about the MAJOR blues scale.

Okay, the same explanation applies, except that the formula for the blues Major is;

T st st (T+st) T (T+st)
G A Bb B D E G

This would be
1 2 b3 3 5 6 8

Still say no key signature is used with the major blues scale either.


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Re: Key signatures of the blues scale #460576
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Diane W.Thank you for your help.I think I understand.I was given these Major and Minor blues scales to practice by a piano teacher who sold me some music books at a music store.Each scale has a key signature written in.I am not going to take lessons from him because he did not include the finger numbering.I have another teacher that has recommended to me by one of his students.From what I understand from you and the rest on this forum,key signatures are included in blues pieces.Then they are important.In blues scales as long as you follow the formulas that you have given me,you do'nt need key signatures written in on the blues scales.Maybe this was done to help the student see what the step formulas were.Linda


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