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#452564 11/01/05 10:26 PM
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I have a difficult time saying names of composers, so maybe you guys can help me sound out a few names like ex. Chopin -( Shaw- pan)

Here are the names I cant say:
Wladyslaw Szpilman
Shostakovich
Prokofiev
George Cziffra
Pletnev

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Shpeel-min

ShAH-stuh-KOH-vich.

Pruh-KOH-fee'ev

Zherzh ZIFF-ruh
([er] as in 'her')


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#452566 11/01/05 10:35 PM
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what about Wladyslaw?

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Originally posted by Skriabin:
what about Wladyslaw?
I'm not sure. I think "VlAH-dee-slahv."


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How about Schumann?

Is it "Shoo-mahn" or "Shoo-min"?


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what about 'Scriabin'?

i heard people pronounce it emphasizing on 'a' in '-ia-', but when i heard Horowitz saying it, it doesn't sound like such 'a' is emphasized.

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#452570 11/01/05 10:42 PM
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Mussorghsky (according to David Barber) always pronounced his name with an accent on the "Muh", but today many people put the accent on the "sor".

Who wins?


Sam
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Originally posted by signa:
what about 'Scriabin'?

i heard people pronounce it emphasizing on 'a' in '-ia-', but when i heard Horowitz saying it, it doesn't sound like such 'a' is emphasized.
Scree - Ah - Bin

Theres deffintaly an Emphasizing "a". I've heard this name from various teachers.

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#452572 11/01/05 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by pianojerome:
How about Schumann?

Is it "Shoo-mahn" or "Shoo-min"?
I always pronounced Robert Schumann as Shoo-mahn
as opposed to William Schuman, which I pronounce Shoo-min...


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#452573 11/02/05 12:05 AM
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definitely Shoo-mahn. and an interesting side note about Szpilman: in German his name would be spelled Speilman, and Speil means " to play", so his name is pretty cool for a pianist/composer to have smile he wrote an autobiography, and in English it is called The Pianist. very moving and good book. also made into a rather good movie. i was never sure how to pronounce his first name, though.


That's right...I have the same birthday as Mozart. If only it meant something and I could have one thousandth of his genius...in my dreams, i suppose.
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Pogorelich?
"po-gor-el-itch"?

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Pletnev = Pletnjoff laugh

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How about Czerny?

"Cher-nee" or "Zer-nee"?

('er' as in 'her')

(or is it 'er' as in 'herr'?)


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#452577 11/02/05 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by Skriabin:
I have a difficult time saying names of composers, so maybe you guys can help me sound out a few names like ex. Chopin -( Shaw- pan)
Actually, the "n" in Chopin isn't pronunced. Instead, you send it out from your nose!


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David Ramezani
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#452578 11/02/05 07:08 PM
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About Chopin, that's the French pronounciation. In Poland they do really say Zhopenn, or something like that.

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Originally posted by pianojerome:
Mussorghsky (according to David Barber) always pronounced his name with an accent on the "Muh", but today many people put the accent on the "sor".

Who wins?
My best friend is a pathologist from Ekaterinburg (in the Urals - once home of Boris Yeltsin & where they shot the tsar). I asked her for the definite on Moussorgsky. Here it is:
"Moo" as in cow "sore" as in hurt "ski" as in avalanche -- heavy on the "moo" = MOO sore ski


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Originally posted by Anima:
About Chopin, that's the French pronounciation. In Poland they do really say Zhopenn, or something like that.
Chopin's dad was really aclimated to Poland. He'd lived there since he was 17. He'd changed his first name from Nicholas to Mikolay and he probably gave Chopin a Polish pronouncation as well. One of Frederick's boyhood friends suggested he change his last name to Chopinski (for real.) laugh In his school records it's sometimes spelled Szchopen (or something like it).


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Originally posted by pianojerome:
How about Czerny?

"Cher-nee" or "Zer-nee"?

('er' as in 'her')

(or is it 'er' as in 'herr'?)
I've always pronounced it "Chair-nee"


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I alwyas pronounce Pogorelich as "pickle relish."

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Originally posted by Kreisler:
I alwyas pronounce Pogorelich as "pickle relish."

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The orchestra director at my old high school used to say "Puke-eenee" (Puccini) and "mucus" (music) and " Choppin' " (Chopin) and "Scoo-bert" (Schubert) and "Al-baloney" (Albinoni) and "Saint-Sea-yanz" (Saint-Saens) and "Mah-zert" [er as in 'her'] (Mozart)...

His Dad once came to direct the orchestra, and asked us to take out the "Show-STAH-koh-vich" (Symphony No. 5). laugh


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