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#451676 - 03/17/06 09:02 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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Those two pages for the horizontal density. Now for the vertical density:

Movement 3 File 7 Page 2: 252 (on one line!!)


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#451677 - 03/17/06 09:16 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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Quote
Originally posted by Kreisler:
Hmm...let's do the one in big print!
Doesn't the ossia cadenza have more notes?

Be prepared for pwnage... using ossia cadenza:
Movement 1 file 4 page 2: 922 :t:
Movement 1 file 4 page 3: 1588 :t: :t:
(+/- 10 for both... I kind of lost concentration)


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#451678 - 03/18/06 12:14 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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movement 1 file 3: page 1: 191 (don't count the first note of page 2!)


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#451679 - 03/18/06 12:21 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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Movement 1 file 3: page 2: 225 (including first note of page 3 (tied note))!


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#451680 - 03/18/06 12:31 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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n00b question - how do I get to it from sheetmusicarchives.net?

I want to help!


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#451681 - 03/18/06 12:39 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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Movement 1 file 3: page 3: 467


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#451682 - 03/18/06 12:43 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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n00b question - how do I get to it from sheetmusicarchives.net?

I want to help!
Click on Rachmaninoff, scroll down to the files...


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#451683 - 03/18/06 12:43 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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n00b question - how do I get to it from sheetmusicarchives.net?

I want to help!
You go to www.sheetmusicarchives.net. You click on Rachmaninov (http://www.sheetmusicarchive.net/single_listing.cfm?composer_id=54).
You scroll down to the 4th from under, called "Orchestral Scores".

There you see:

Orchestral Scores

Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 1 (file 1/4)
Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 1 (file 2/4)
Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 1 (file 3/4)
Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 1 (file 4/4)
Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 2 (file 1/2)
Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 2 (file 2/2)
Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 3 (file 1/7)
Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 3 (file 2/7)
Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 3 (file 3/7)
Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 3 (file 4/7)
Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 3 (file 5/7)
Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 3 (file 6/7)
Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 3 (file 7/7)


Just download them all, by clicking on them, and then on "Download".

Note: You are limited only 2 downloads a day (so if you're smart you download file 3/4 and 4/4 of movenment 1 today, so you can start smile )


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#451684 - 03/18/06 01:00 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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Movement 1 file 3: page 4: 302
Movement 1 file 3: page 5: 178


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#451685 - 03/18/06 02:27 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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RUNNING TOTAL SO FAR:

6,475 NOTES

Keep it up!!!!


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#451686 - 03/18/06 02:36 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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Mvt. 2, File 1:

Page 1 - 0 frown

Page 2 - 0 frown

Page 3 - 99

Page 4 - 299


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#451687 - 03/18/06 03:25 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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Guys, someone already did this. I'm serious. He counted all the notes in Rach 3, all the notes in every Mozart concerto. What's funny, there are more notes in Rach than all 27 Mozart Concerti COMBINED.

At least, this was all told to me by a professor at my school.

#451688 - 03/18/06 03:28 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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Heey what's everyone doing? The one is counting mvt. 1, the other just starts with mvt. 2 and thrid guy starts counting page 2-3 of Mvt. 3... haha!

Anyway...

Mvt. 1 file 3:

Page 6: 141
Page 7: 108
Page 8: 171
Page 9: 186
Page 10: 177
Page 11: 176
Together: 959
Together file 3: 2322

Done with file 3!


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#451689 - 03/18/06 04:17 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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File 4:

Quote
Originally posted by prokofiev:
Quote
Originally posted by Kreisler:
[b] Hmm...let's do the one in big print!
Doesn't the ossia cadenza have more notes?

Be prepared for pwnage... using ossia cadenza:
Movement 1 file 4 page 2: 922 :t:
Movement 1 file 4 page 3: 1588 :t: :t:
(+/- 10 for both... I kind of lost concentration) [/b]
Page 1 normal (so not with Ossia): 186
Page 1 Ossia (so using the Ossia): 405
Page 2 normal (not Ossia): 520


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#451690 - 03/18/06 04:45 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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Page 4: 476
Page 5: 655 (?)
Page 6: 117
Page 7: 94


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#451691 - 03/18/06 05:07 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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Page 8: 131
Page 9: 121
Page 10: 174

Got a bit confused after long counting so I guess it's +/- max. 100 for them smile .


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#451692 - 03/18/06 05:14 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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A nice overview:

Rachmaninov Concerto no. 3: note count

Movement 1:

File 1
Page 1: 38
Page 2: 94
Page 3: 83
Page 4: 135
Page 5: 146
Page 6: 139
Page 7: 252
Page 8: 227
Page 9: 228
Page 10: 233
Page 11: 80
Total of notes in File 1: 1655

File 2
Page 1 = 187
Page 2 = 301
Page 3 = 407
Page 4 = 287
Page 5 = 300
Page 6 = 300
Page 7 = 122
Page 8 = 96
Page 9 = 200
Page 10 = 167
Page 11 = 258

Total of notes in File 2: 2625
Total of notes in Files 1 and 2: 4280

File 3
Page 1 = 191
Page 2 = 225
Page 3 = 467
Page 4 = 302
Page 5 = 178
Page 6 = 141
Page 7 = 108
Page 8 = 171
Page 9 = 186
Page 10 = 177
Page 11 = 176

Total of notes in File 3: 2322
Total of notes in Files 1+3: 3977
Total of notes in Files 2+3: 4947
Total of notes in Files 1-3: 6602


File 4
Page 1 Standard: 186
Page 1 Ossia: 405 (?)
Page 2 Standard: 520
Page 2 Ossia: 922
Page 3: 1588
Page 4: 476
Page 5: 655 (?)
Page 6: 117
Page 7: 94
Page 8: 131
Page 9: 121
Page 10: 174

Total of notes in File 4(Normal version): 4062
Total of notes in File 4 (Ossia version): 4683


Total of notes in Files 1+4 (Normal version): 5717
Total of notes in Files 1+4 (Ossia version): 6338
Total of notes in Files 2+4 (Normal version): 6687
Total of notes in Files 2+4 (Ossia version): 7308
Total of notes in Files 1+2+4 (Normal version): 8342
Total of notes in Files 1+2+4 (Ossia version): 8963
Total of notes in Files 3+4 (Normal version): 6384
Total of notes in Files 3+4 (Ossia version): 7005
Total of notes in Files 1+3+4 (Normal version): 8039
Total of notes in Files 1+3+4 (Ossia version): 8660
Total of notes in Files 2+3+4 (Normal version): 9009
Total of notes in Files 2+3+4 (Ossia version): 9630
Total of notes in Files 1-4 (Normal version): 10664
Total of notes in Files 1-4 (Ossia version): 11285

Total of notes in Movement 1 (Normal version): 10664
Total of notes in Movement 1 (Ossia version): 11285


Movement 2:

File 1
Page 1 - 0
Page 2 - 0
Page 3 - 99
Page 4 299

Total of notes in File 1:

Movement 3:

File 1
Page 3: 277
Page 4: 303

Total of notes in File 1:

Current Score: 12363


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#451693 - 03/18/06 05:17 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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Ok I promiss I won't ever post here or count anymore, only updating the nice table thing smile !


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#451694 - 03/18/06 06:22 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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Movement 2, File 1:

Page 5: 453
Page 6: 231
Page 7: 179
Page 8: 461
Page 9: 285
Page 10: 342
Page 11: 408

Movement 2, File 1 done.


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#451695 - 03/18/06 07:15 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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Excellent work, everyone!

GRAND TOTAL:
14,253 NOTES!


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#451696 - 03/18/06 07:21 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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Current needs:

2nd Movement, File 2

Almost all of third movement.

First movement total:

10,664 NOTES! (no ossia)
11,285 NOTES! (using the ossia)


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#451697 - 03/19/06 04:17 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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Quote
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Excellent work, everyone!

GRAND TOTAL:
14,253 NOTES!
I have 15120.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Update:

Rachmaninov Concerto no. 3: note count

Movement 1:

File 1
Page 1: 38
Page 2: 94
Page 3: 83
Page 4: 135
Page 5: 146
Page 6: 139
Page 7: 252
Page 8: 227
Page 9: 228
Page 10: 233
Page 11: 80
Total of notes in File 1: 1655

File 2
Page 1 = 187
Page 2 = 301
Page 3 = 407
Page 4 = 287
Page 5 = 300
Page 6 = 300
Page 7 = 122
Page 8 = 96
Page 9 = 200
Page 10 = 167
Page 11 = 258

Total of notes in File 2: 2625
Total of notes in Files 1 and 2: 4280

File 3
Page 1 = 191
Page 2 = 225
Page 3 = 467
Page 4 = 302
Page 5 = 178
Page 6 = 141
Page 7 = 108
Page 8 = 171
Page 9 = 186
Page 10 = 177
Page 11 = 176

Total of notes in File 3: 2322
Total of notes in Files 1+3: 3977
Total of notes in Files 2+3: 4947
Total of notes in Files 1-3: 6602


File 4
Page 1 Standard: 186
Page 1 Ossia: 405 (?)
Page 2 Standard: 520
Page 2 Ossia: 922
Page 3: 1588
Page 4: 476
Page 5: 655 (?)
Page 6: 117
Page 7: 94
Page 8: 131
Page 9: 121
Page 10: 174

Total of notes in File 4(Normal version): 4062
Total of notes in File 4 (Ossia version): 4683


Total of notes in Files 1+4 (Normal version): 5717
Total of notes in Files 1+4 (Ossia version): 6338
Total of notes in Files 2+4 (Normal version): 6687
Total of notes in Files 2+4 (Ossia version): 7308
Total of notes in Files 1+2+4 (Normal version): 8342
Total of notes in Files 1+2+4 (Ossia version): 8963
Total of notes in Files 3+4 (Normal version): 6384
Total of notes in Files 3+4 (Ossia version): 7005
Total of notes in Files 1+3+4 (Normal version): 8039
Total of notes in Files 1+3+4 (Ossia version): 8660
Total of notes in Files 2+3+4 (Normal version): 9009
Total of notes in Files 2+3+4 (Ossia version): 9630
Total of notes in Files 1-4 (Normal version): 10664
Total of notes in Files 1-4 (Ossia version): 11285

Total of notes in Movement 1 (Normal version): 10664
Total of notes in Movement 1 (Ossia version): 11285


Movement 2:

File 1
Page 1 - 0
Page 2 - 0
Page 3 - 99
Page 4 299
Page 5 - 453
Page 6 - 231
Page 7 - 179
Page 8 - 461
Page 9 - 285
Page 10 - 342
Page 11 - 408

Total of notes in File 1: 2757

Movement 3:

File 1
Page 3: 277
Page 4: 303

Total of notes in File 1:

Current Score: 15120


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#451698 - 03/20/06 03:25 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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Haha this could lead to some interesting quantitave comparison of pieces. Does the Prokofiev 2 really have more notes that the Rach 3? Maybe we should find out. wink

#451699 - 03/20/06 03:56 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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I doubt Prokofiev 2 has more, simply because it's almost 15 mins shorter.


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#451700 - 03/21/06 12:23 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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Hey are we stopping with counting? Come on... just a little to go!


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#451701 - 03/21/06 12:52 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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YES! OBEY lol_nl! KEEP COUNTING!


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#451702 - 03/22/06 12:36 AM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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A new estimate, based on current numbers, places the concerto in the neiborhood of 21,000-23,000. Any bets it's even higher than that?

70:1 odds <18,000
6:1 18,000-20,000
Even money 20,000-24,000
2:1 24,000-26,000
3:1 26,000-28,000
5:1 28,000-33,000
11:1 >33,000

wink


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Counting notes? Yee gads and little fishes! You are actually going to count ALL the notes in the RACH 3!!! Shock, horror, gasp, etc.

At first I thought "Oh my <place deity here>," these people are mad... now I'm thinking "Must download Rach 3!!"

Oh, and for all the other aspiring note counters out there who want to download the rach 3 from sheetmusicarchive.net but who are frustrated by the whole 2 downloads a day thing... there is hope! After you've downloaded your two files, click Tools, Internet Options, and then Delete Cookies. This will allow you to download another two. Repeat process.

Yes, I know, cheating the system, evil, etc etc, but what can I say, I'm a PC guy.

Anyway, I'm not going to help on this thread (at least not yet; tests, tests and more tests), but I will check back later (if I remember) to see what the grand total is.

Gluck! (good luck)


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#451704 - 03/24/06 01:25 AM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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Quote
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Oh, and for all the other aspiring note counters out there who want to download the rach 3 from sheetmusicarchive.net but who are frustrated by the whole 2 downloads a day thing... there is hope! After you've downloaded your two files, click Tools, Internet Options, and then Delete Cookies. This will allow you to download another two. Repeat process.
Does this also work for sites such as Rapidshare?


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#451705 - 03/24/06 05:13 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project  
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Looks like we gave up :rolleyes:
Did all the work for nothing...


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