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#438837 - 08/18/06 12:40 AM Best piano teachers in California  
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I knew there are John Perry in the USC, Ashe (?) in UC Santa Babara and Hans Boepple in Santa Clara U. Any other good ones? Thanks for your help

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#438838 - 08/18/06 04:09 AM Re: Best piano teachers in California  
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My top two are Hans Boepple of Santa Clara Univeristy and Mark Richman in Los Angeles. Richman is a phenomenal teacher with unbelievable insight and wisdom, both musically and technically. In fact, he's the reason I turned down NEC and USC. I decided that studying with him, even while at a mediocre music program (UCLA), would much more beneficial for me.

#438839 - 08/18/06 02:30 PM Re: Best piano teachers in California  
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I have heard Hans Boepple's master class. It's simply amazing. How does he compare to Nalita True, Bob Shannon, Kaplinsky, Boris Berman, etc.?

#438840 - 08/18/06 04:48 PM Re: Best piano teachers in California  
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I was told the same when I was looking for teachers in California. Everyone told me the top 3 are John Perry at USC, Charles Asche at UC Santa Barbara, and Hans Boepple in Santa Clara.

I can't speak for Perry or Boepple from personal experience. But I have heard GREAT GREAT things about both of them. Actually I've seen Perry in lectures and a masterclass before... and I actually don't think he missed A THING in that masterclass. Honestly though, I don't think you can go wrong from studying with either one of them, obviously if you're good enough to get into Perry's studio, you are good enough to get into almost ANY studio in the world... afterall, Perry is considered to be one of the BEST teachers in the world. I can tell you A LOT about Asche though if you have any questions. I have friends who studied at Eastman with Nelita True, Douglas Humpherys, etc. then went onto study with Asche for graduate studies and they told me that Asche was a much better teacher than their former teachers at Eastman. So I think that speaks volume. If you want to know more about Asche, you can email me or AIM me.

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#438841 - 08/18/06 05:38 PM Re: Best piano teachers in California  
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I think my teacher is up there, he's under John Perry at Colburn, Stephen Cooke.

And my Interlochen teacher was head of pedagogy at USC so I'd put him up there as well, T.J. Lymenstull. Apparently one time John totally tore him apart hahahaahah


So, you're a cannibal.
#438842 - 08/18/06 05:46 PM Re: Best piano teachers in California  
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I heard a rumor that John Perry is leaving USC and heading for Texas. Can anyone verify this?

#438843 - 08/18/06 05:57 PM Re: Best piano teachers in California  
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John Perry IS leaving USC.

He will give his full attention to Colburn.

He once taught at Texas (UT Austin). Those were apparently his "wild days" according to Sarkis Baltaian (his current assistant at USC).

#438844 - 08/18/06 06:09 PM Re: Best piano teachers in California  
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Is Colburn considered a good school? Also, do you know if John Perry is "definitely" not heading for Texas?

#438845 - 08/18/06 06:18 PM Re: Best piano teachers in California  
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Colburn has free tuition like Curtis so most likely is just as selective.

#438846 - 08/18/06 06:19 PM Re: Best piano teachers in California  
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nothing is ever definite...

it's possible Perry is heading to Texas, but he makes his home in Los Angeles. So LA schools will be where he'll be permanently based (he's also getting up there in age). He is visiting professor at NUMBER of places at the moment. He flys all over few times a semester from what I understand. But from what I know, he will be leaving USC to give his full attention to Colburn.

Is Colburn a good school?

It's supposed to be the Curtis of the west coast if you can believe that.

It is completely tuition free, they give you a brand new apartment to live in right next to the school across from the walt disney concert hall, and they even give you a stipend for food and entertainment.

They have no vocal program, ONLY instrumental.

John Perry at the moment is the only piano performance teacher, though I know there's another piano teacher there as some sort of assitant/literature teacher (???).

Colburn is extremely competitive for number of reasons. One being that Perry is the teacher, and it's completely free. And also it's a small school, so hundreds of people apply and only a couple get in for each instrument (though this is same with every top conservatory). They are LOADED with money and they're ready to turn it into THE top music school in the world if they can. They've sucked the life out of USC Thronton School already stealing all the top professors. They also have probably the best facilities in the world. Brand new buildings, and world class concert halls. I know that DG has made recordings in the Zipper hall.

So yes, to answer your question, Colburn is more than just a "good school". They're after the title of being the "BEST".

#438847 - 08/19/06 01:15 AM Re: Best piano teachers in California  
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Actually, I recently asked Perry what he would be doing this year, as I wanted to study with him at USC. He said that he's only taking five students from USC, and paying full attention to Colburn. He even said he might consider me! But as it turns out, USC was just too expensive for a music degree.

#438848 - 08/19/06 10:02 AM Re: Best piano teachers in California  
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Perry moving to Texas is a recurring rumor that never seems to happen. He used to teach at Rice, too, but I believe his focus will be in LA.

I visited the Colburn school a few months ago. It's INCREDIBLE.


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#438849 - 08/19/06 10:07 AM Re: Best piano teachers in California  
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My teacher is SO GOOD, I don't want anybody to know I've got him...

#438850 - 08/19/06 11:17 AM Re: Best piano teachers in California  
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Auntie Lynn, I've sent you a PM... smile

#438851 - 08/20/06 01:26 AM Re: Best piano teachers in California  
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someone at SFCM? didn't they just add a new faculty member?

#438852 - 08/20/06 02:45 AM Re: Best piano teachers in California  
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Colburn!!!!!!!1

I love Colburn! I study there now as of two days ago and my teacher is going to whip me into shape. I think it isn't quite the Curtis of the west coast, but certainly could be soon.


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#438853 - 08/20/06 04:22 AM Re: Best piano teachers in California  
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Danny, you're in the preparatory division.

We're talkin' about the conservatory.

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So, you're a cannibal.
I am?! I find that hard to swallow.


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#438855 - 08/20/06 07:35 AM Re: Best piano teachers in California  
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I think my teacher is up there, he's under John Perry at Colburn, Stephen Cooke.
Your teacher is not a part time organist is he?
I know an organist named Stephen Cooke that plays at concerts I go to alot. Not the same guy probably.

#438856 - 08/21/06 05:15 PM Re: Best piano teachers in California  
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Is this a good time to audition at USC, then? No competition since John Perry is leaving. I mean, most pianists going to Thornton were studying with him.


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#438857 - 08/21/06 05:24 PM Re: Best piano teachers in California  
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Danny, you're in the preparatory division.

We're talkin' about the conservatory.
Cook teaches at the conservatory mad


So, you're a cannibal.
#438858 - 08/21/06 05:41 PM Re: Best piano teachers in California  
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Is this a good time to audition at USC, then? No competition since John Perry is leaving. I mean, most pianists going to Thornton were studying with him.
Um, it's a bad time to audition if you want to study with Perry.

It's pretty much the same if you want to study with someone else.


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#438859 - 08/21/06 08:28 PM Re: Best piano teachers in California  
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[b] Danny, you're in the preparatory division.

We're talkin' about the conservatory.
Cook teaches at the conservatory mad [/b]
I don't know who told you that, but he's in the preparatory division. Perry is the only piano performance teacher at the Colburn school.

The preparatory divison is no where near as competitive as the Conservatory. And I don't think it's free.


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