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#438661 09/10/06 06:26 AM
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I accidently posted this in the wrong section
anyway, I was challenged the other day by a friend to name 20 professional female pianists
At the time, all I could think of were
Martha Argerich, Dubravka Tomsic, Idil Biret, Clara Schumann and Jeanne Marie Darre

Back home, with the internet at hand, i ran a little search, I knew that for historical reasons they were possibly outnumbered by their male counterparts but frankly, I was surprised

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_classical_pianists


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There's quite a few, they just don't get the press they deserve(d): Monique dela Bruchollerie, Joyce Hatto, Clara Haskil, Annie Fischer, and Yvonne Léfebure are five female pianists that I would put up against any males, past or present.

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#438663 09/10/06 07:21 AM
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Also not in the list would be Ida Krehm and Cecile de Horvath. Both had long and active careers playing with major orchestras and getting reviews that were exemplary touting their 'complete technique' and beautiful tonal quality.

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Our own EHPianist, Elena Hammel, the brunette

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#438665 09/10/06 07:38 AM
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I like Angela Hewitt playing Bach !

In Norway we have brother and sister pianists : Leif Ove Andsnes is probably known to you, but his sister Ingrid is a wonderful female pianist.

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#438666 09/10/06 07:50 AM
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There were some great women pianists earlier in this century that are not on that list, among them were Teresa Carreno, Yolanda Mero, Ethel Leginska, Frances Nash, Olga Samaroff, Germain Schnitzer, Marguerie Volavy, Fanny Bloomfield Zeisler, Cecile Chaminade, Myra Hess, Wanda Landowska (mainly harpsichord), Tina Lerner, and Elly Ney. All of these gifted women pianists played for the Ampico and Duo-Art reproducing piano roll companies, and were quite famous in their heyday. There are a few more that I have not listed.

There does seem to have been a shortage of famous women pianists. Could it have had something to do with women's percieved roll in society back then?

GP

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Grandpianoman: You might be right about the perceived role! Mme. de Horvath told one of her students that women had to work twice as hard to get the same recognition as men did.

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Nobody mentioned Helene Grimaud or Rosalyn Tureck.


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There does seem to have been a shortage of famous women pianists. Could it have had something to do with women's percieved roll in society back then?

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Don't get me started. Talented boys of the middle and working class were much more likely to be nutured as musicians up to a professional level than girls because boys were expected to be able to earn a living. Girls were expected to be wives and mothers. Unless a talented girl were born into a musical family like Clara Schumann she'd probably would've received only a smattering of musical training and then been left to her own devices. (Both Chopin's mother and older sister were excellent pianists who never played outside the home except at the occasional dance.) Upper class girls were routinely taught music often by famous masters and had the resources to obtain as much training as they desired (or their parents would indulge) regardless of talent but their position in society would've precluded their persuing a career in music. Chopin was sought after enough as a master to be able to pick and choose his own students. He didn't just take anyone with the money. And he didn't take beginners. One had to audition. Several of Chopin's female students were society ladies talented enough to have become professional musicians if their social position hadn't forbade it. (Several of Chopin's male students did become professional pianists or music teachers.) Society might have lionized popular performers and composers but at the end of the day they were still just "hired help." One of the reasons Chopin's engagement fell through was it would've been unthinkable for the daughter of a Countess to marry the piano playing son of a schoolteacher no matter how talented and successful.


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#438670 09/10/06 12:06 PM
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Felix Mendelsohns sister Fanny was a pianist and a composer, she has written some of the "Songs without Words", but she put her brothers mame on it.
Quite typical ?

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Felix Mendelsohns sister Fanny was a pianist and a composer, she has written some of the "Songs without Words", but she put her brothers mame on it.
Quite typical ?

Ragnhild
I didn't know that. Did we all know that?


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#438672 09/10/06 12:37 PM
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Sorry about my spelling, this one was not because I am a Norwegian !

I read about Fanny Mendelsohn in a magazine for classical music today.

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#438673 09/10/06 12:38 PM
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Sorry about my spelling, this one was not because I am a Norwegian !

I read about Fanny Mendelsohn in a magazine for classical music today.

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Not yet mentioned I'd add Tatiana Nikolayeva, Imogen Cooper, Maria Tipo, Lylia Zilberstein, Diane Walsh, Jenny Lin, Yaara Tal, Susan Tomes, Elisabeth Leonskaya, Olga Kern, Ingrid Fliter, Gabriela Montero , Valentina Lisitsa... there are quite a bit!

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I saw Ruth Laredo play a nice Rach #2 once. In the other thread I mentioned Marian McPartland and Jessica Williams from the jazz world.

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Toshiko Akiyoshi, Tori Amos, Gina Bachauer, Dorothy Donegan, Diana Krall, Lillian Kallir, Lily Kraus, Shirley Horn, Yvonne Loriod, Ursula Oppens, Renee Rosnes, and Jessica Williams just among the famous ones off the top of my head that I have heard live and/or tuned for. I think Dorothy Donegan was one of the greatest pianists I have ever heard. Local pro pianists include Peggy Salkind, Barbara Shearer, Rae Imamura, Sarah Cahill, Jennifer Clevinger, Vera and Patricia Purcell, Roberta Mandel. That is 20 right there, without going to ones like Agathe Baaker-Grondale, Rena Kyriakou, Guiomar Novaes, Constance Keene, Manna Zucca, Alicia De Larrocha, Amparo Iturbi, etc. that have not already been mentioned.


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Angela Cheng, Ann Schein, Orli Shaham, Katia Skanavi, Nelita True, Nancy Weems, Pamela Mia Paul, Nicole Narboni, Ksenia Nosikova, Constance Carroll, Jennifer Hayghe, Cassandra Keeling, Krassimira Jordan, etc...

The first few are rather famous, the others are pianists in Texas and Louisiana that I've come across while living here.

What seems odd to me is the number of names on the list that aren't Korean. Conservatories are FULL of Korean women. Do they all go back to Korea? What happens?


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Don't forget Nadia Boulanger! She was a much sought-after piano teacher, who had a huge effect on 20th century music. (Aaron Copland is probably her most famous student...)

This season the DSO is having Angela Hewitt AND Mari Kodama. Woohoo!!

As a side note, some of the girls I teach piano lessons to were recently horrified to learn that I am taking piano lessons from a man. The church where I work has 3 female pianists, and their school's music teacher is a woman, so it just hadn't ever occurred to them that men could do it. smile

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Wow that's impressive, did you add all of them to the list on Wiki?

Then i just guess there missing the right advertisment?


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Don't forget Ingrid Haebler and Mitsuko Uchida (she plays Mozart brilliantly, I think she might even be in par with Perahia when it comes to Mozart).

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