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Difficulty of these Gershwin pieces #438468
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I am considering doing Gershwin's "The Man I Love" and "I Got Rhythm" for a music exam next year. These are the only 2 pieces in the repetoire list in the obligatory "contemporary" category that appeal to me. However, I am having trouble finding the music scores in my local music shop to browse through and assess their suitability, and since I *must* use original publications during the exam, I would like some feedback before I order the music online.

My hands are on the small side (only an octave span; Gershwin's Prelude No. 1 is a problem) and I have always had trouble with very fast music (e.g. Ravel's Sonatine, Poulenc's Toccata from Trois Pieces, etc.). Furthermore, I lack power for works like Beethoven's late Sonatas. I am most comfortable with Bach, Mozart, Mendelssohn.

Based on my limitations, could anyone comment on whether these 2 pieces would be beyond my abilities? I would be most grateful for any insight.

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Re: Difficulty of these Gershwin pieces #438469
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Roxane :

First: You are talking about the Gershwin transcriptions of these two of his own songs, aren't you?

I have them at home; I'll check them out when I get home this afternoon and get back to you. Particularly, "I Got Rhythm" - there are some rhythm 'problems' - no surprise! - to solve in this one, and it is to be played at quite a brisk tempo. "The Man I Love" should not be a problem as I recall, but I'll check thoroughly when I get home and let you know what I think.

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Re: Difficulty of these Gershwin pieces #438470
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I've had alot of trouble with rhythms in Rhapsody in Blue.. alot of trouble... till just recently when my newly acquired skills from playing Latin/Spanish influenced religious accompaniments (of all things) kicked in. eek (Still have trouble, but not as much). Maybe I am trying to convey that rhythm, tho tricky is not as difficult to master as some things.


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i think theres more than one version of them...if your talking about the concert paraphrases of those pieces there definately advanced and fairly virtuosic

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sandman:

I believe that there is only one version of each transcribed by Gershwin; there are transcriptions by others, though. Roxane, I'm sure, will clarify if she's talking about Gershwin's own transcriptions.

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Re: Difficulty of these Gershwin pieces #438473
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If you go here http://www.gamingforce.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48704
and scroll down you can get free copies of these works.

If you've played the entire Ravel Sonatine and real version of Rhapsody and Blue for solo piano, the Gershwin songs are MUCH easier. If you've played some simplified version of the Rhapsody and only the 2nd movement of the Sonatine than these works might be quite challenging. What does your teacher say?

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Thanks for the responses so far. Yes, I suppose I am refering to Gershwin's own transcriptions. On the repetoire list, the music is found on a volume called "George Gershwin at the Keyboard", published by Warner/I.M.P. My teacher does not have these versions, only a watered-down transcription of "I Got Rhythm".

I have never played Rhapsody in Blue, and while able to play Ravel's Sonatine, was never able to give it the fluency and speed it needed. I do not have trouble with the rest of the music I have selected the exam (in the other musical periods), but need some more contemporary music to finish, and I do not find any "connection" with the Bartok, Stravinsky, etc. in the repetoire list, so am down to the Gershwin, which I think might be fun.

I have come to accept that, however hard I practise, I have certain physical limitations, e.g. due to hand size, when it comes to playing certain music. I can play the Baroque and Classical periods extremely well, but past those periods, I often run into problems.

Pianoloverus, many thanks for the link, I will go check it out.

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In your situation, I would recommend that you get the standard song version of these pieces, rather than either the versions that Gershwin published or the transcription of his recorded performances. Then make your own arrangement to suit your own abilities.


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BDB :

Roxane doesn't have a choice.

She is required for her piano examination to play a couple of contemporary pieces, and these are the only two on the repertoire list of this category that appeal to her. She doesn't have the option of playing anything other than the required repertoire, and if she chooses the Gershin, she must play the original Gershwin transcriptions.

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