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#431810 - 08/11/05 11:22 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang  
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Yundi Li has won some prestigious piano competitions.
The Warsaw Chopin Competition, one of the most prestigious.

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#431811 - 08/12/05 01:59 AM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang  
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Hard to say. I feel that if both pianists continue playing the way they have been and follow the paths they are currently on, both have great longevity potential. Barring any unforeseen major life changes, say LL shattering his fingers after falling off the bench during one of his "emotional takeovers" in an unprecedented display of poetic justice or Li being seduced by Hollywood producers and abandoning pianism for the "You Got Served" sequel, I feel both pianists will be in the spotlight for as long as they desire.

#431812 - 08/14/05 12:27 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang  
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Yundi Li definitely. Lang Lang is just earning money for his parents, while Yundi is playing for enjoyment.


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#431813 - 08/15/05 02:46 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang  
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Yundi Li hands down. I love his recording of La Campanella!
i hear it took 8 tries and plenty edits to get the final release version out with zero mistakes smile

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#431814 - 08/15/05 04:38 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang  
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I did see Lang Lang playing Liebestraum #3, and it was quite good.
I am by no means a LL fan, but I have seen this on the arts channel, and I must admit, he played
it very well. Man do I wish he would quit with the bugeyes though. If he ever disappears, that bugeye crap is what is gonna finally **** eveyone off.


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#431815 - 08/15/05 04:45 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang  
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Yundi Li hands down. I love his recording of La Campanella!
i hear it took 8 tries and plenty edits to get the final release version out with zero mistakes smile

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Somewhere in a library in Canada (has a web site) there are recordings of Glenn Gould studio sessions. Many takes, more than 8.


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#431816 - 08/15/05 04:58 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang  
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Most, if not all commercial recordings these days are taken from several takes and spliced together like crazy. It is even quite possible to splice live recordings (as in Volodos' famous "live" Rachmaninoff 3rd concerto recording.)

This isn't new, it's been going on since about the late 50's I think.


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#431817 - 08/15/05 05:04 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang  
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yeah, and that in many ways takes away the authenticity. i had just seen horowitz in moscow dvd, and horowitz: the last romantic, which documented the recordings he did in his new york city studio. he hit the wrong notes plenty, especially in the challenging parts, like in chopin's a-flat major polonaise, and he demanded that it is not edited. he said he's not perfect and neither should his performance/recording of a piece.

i would assume studio recordings are done in the same fashion as with any other type of music. you either start from the beginning, or pick-up where you left off. the beauty of multitrack recording smile

#431818 - 08/15/05 05:09 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang  
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[/qb][/QUOTE]Somewhere in a library in Canada (has a web site) there are recordings of Glenn Gould studio sessions. Many takes, more than 8. [/QB][/QUOTE]

Yes, I've heard some of the Gould takes. Some of them being of the same piece are exceedingly different.
If you weren't aware of who the pianist was, you would never have guessed that it was the same one.
On top of that no matter how different the style, each take was spot on note perfect. Very neat to listen to.


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#431819 - 08/16/05 05:55 AM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang  
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There is a difference between Gould, who tries out different kind of interpretations, and somebody who struggles to get his Paganini etude note perfect.

#431820 - 08/16/05 06:17 AM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang  
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Originally posted by Antonius Hamus:
There is a difference between Gould, who tries out different kind of interpretations, and somebody who struggles to get his Paganini etude note perfect.
I don't hear a whole lot of struggling here:

Yundi Li - La Campanella (Live/unedited 2004)


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#431821 - 08/16/05 06:38 AM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang  
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[b] There is a difference between Gould, who tries out different kind of interpretations, and somebody who struggles to get his Paganini etude note perfect.
I don't hear a whole lot of struggling here:

Yundi Li - La Campanella (Live/unedited 2004) [/b]
Well, it's not the most relaxed playing, either. And, I don't have the sheet music, but I think I heard more than a few wrong notes (didn't count, but something like 10).

#431822 - 08/16/05 09:47 AM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang  
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One of the reasons Gould edited was to get rid of the little mistakes that happen in all performances.

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There is a difference between Gould, who tries out different kind of interpretations, and somebody who struggles to get his Paganini etude note perfect.


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#431823 - 08/16/05 02:58 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang  
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Originally posted by Antonius Hamus:
[b] There is a difference between Gould, who tries out different kind of interpretations, and somebody who struggles to get his Paganini etude note perfect.
I don't hear a whole lot of struggling here:

Yundi Li - La Campanella (Live/unedited 2004) [/b]
Well, it's not the most relaxed playing, either. And, I don't have the sheet music, but I think I heard more than a few wrong notes (didn't count, but something like 10). [/b]
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#431824 - 08/16/05 04:51 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang  
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Today's audience is too high on note perfection. Remember Cortot and his great less-than-perfect performances? You could fill a bucket with all the wrong notes, but the music had more than enough soul to make up for it. If everybody played safe and in the same manner, it'd get pretty boring very quickly.

#431825 - 08/16/05 05:24 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang  
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If Yundi Li had a tenth of Cortot's musical abilities I would take any number of wrong notes that I had to (ummm... on a second thought, no I wouldn't - Cortot isn't that good).

But the point was that Gould doesn't need more takes than Li (I've listened to those above mentioned library tapes, and Gould plays with less wrong notes, without sounding like he tries to play with less wrong notes).

#431826 - 08/18/05 07:40 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang  
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iamcanadian, where did u get that live recording of Yundi Li? im just wondering


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