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#428669 - 12/01/07 08:41 PM 'Need help finding the right school.  
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I don't have much of a chance being a concert pianist. This is more because of my lack of a reputation than technical skill. Plus, I prefer composing.

I want to go to a music college where I can learn theory and about composing but also become a virtuoso. I want to be able to play want the big concert pianists are, but not necessarily play for a big crowd. I want to be able to compose my own virtuoso-like music or play in a jazz band, etc.

Also, a good math department wouldn't hurt.

What are some good schools for this?

Thanks a lot.

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#428670 - 12/02/07 12:08 AM Re: 'Need help finding the right school.  
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Originally posted by Age_of_Anxiety:
I don't have much of a chance being a concert pianist. This is more because of my lack of a reputation than technical skill. Plus, I prefer composing.

I'm not sure what you are saying, although it sounds that you are saying that you have the technique required to become a concert pianist but you don't have a "reputation." If one has the technique of a concert pianist, one gets the reputation by performing.
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I want to go to a music college where I can learn theory and about composing but also become a virtuoso. I want to be able to play want the big concert pianists are, but not necessarily play for a big crowd. I want to be able to compose my own virtuoso-like music or play in a jazz band, etc.

Will you please re-read this part of this sentence you wrote : "I want to be able to play want the big concert pianists are..." It makes no sense. How can anyone reply to you if you can't express your thoughts correctly and clearly?
What do you want? You want to compose; you want to become a virtuoso but you don't want to perform as a virtuoso but you might want to perform in a jazz band... ?

It seems to me that you need to decide what you want or to at least prioritize some of the things you want to do.

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Also, a good math department wouldn't hurt.
A good math department wouldn't hurt whom? Why do you throw math into the mix?
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What are some good schools for this?

Thanks a lot.
It seems to me that your thoughts lack focus, so before anyone can say what are "some good schools for 'this'", we need to really know what "this" is.

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#428671 - 12/02/07 12:36 AM Re: 'Need help finding the right school.  
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If the math thing is important, then a big state university would do the trick:

Michigan, Maryland, UT Austin, Iowa, UIUC, etc...

Otherwise, any large music school would do the trick. One of your top priorities as a composer is to find a school that has good people who will play your stuff.


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#428672 - 12/02/07 01:21 AM Re: 'Need help finding the right school.  
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Oh my, that sentence doesn't make much sense. I guess I was in a hurry.

Well, I have good technique because I practice scales, arpeggios, and broken chords, not because of a large repertoire of difficult music. Most of my time spent at the piano is with practicing pure technique, composing, and sight-reading.

Probably the hardest song that I've mastered is Grieg's Wedding Day at Troldhaugen.

But, I printed off the Revolutionary Etude today and have begun learning it, with more ease than I expected. Only in about half an hour I was able to master the left hand part at near full speed for about the first page (up through the A half diminished chord in the right hand). So I figure, at the same rate, I could get it down in about a month or less.

My main piano mentor other than my teacher thinks that I've started playing these pieces too late to become a concert pianist; He said anyone who would have a career as a concert pianist would have already won some competitions in classical music by my age, a little under 17.

However, when it comes to competitions, I've one first place in the state the past two years for composition among other things.

Basically, I want to learn theory and compose, but become good enough to be a concert pianist -- a virtuoso. I want to have unlimited potential repertoire. I'm not particularly interested in being a big-time performer, I just want it to be a possibility, or a second priority.

Ignore the math part, for now.

does that help?

Thanks.

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#428673 - 12/02/07 02:24 PM Re: 'Need help finding the right school.  
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I don't think it's too late for you.

I started piano at a very young age but only took part in my 1st competition just last month, and i'm 20 now.

you want to do so much at once, honestly, it will be extremely difficult. It will be hard enough majoring on performance or composition&theory alone.


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#428674 - 12/03/07 11:28 AM Re: 'Need help finding the right school.  
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Originally posted by Kreisler:

Michigan, UIUC

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Great schools, but enormously selective. You need a very solid math background to get in there.

For example, UIUC's acceptance rate to the program I looked into was 6.5%: about half of Harvard's. If you choose to attend, you'll run into enormous amounts of international students there.

Best of luck, regardless.

P.S. You may want to consider merely being a mathematician and studying music on the side as an avocation. My mother became an actuary, studying at the Wharton School of Business. At that time, she continued her Viola studies and eventually got a Master's of Music in Viola Performance long after she had her doctoral level degree in mathematics.

Just a recommendation.


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