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#416646 - 10/13/06 04:21 AM Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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I have a little project trying to play something in each key-signature, but F# minor is giving me a hard time, is this a difficult key signature to play ???

I have a piece for organ-manuals (Canon by Theodore Salomé) but I do not have the chance to play organ too often.

Does any of you know a nice and easy piano piece for an adult beginner (Grade 7 or less) in F# minor ?

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#416647 - 10/13/06 07:55 AM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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Well, the middle movement of Mozart's 23rd piano concerto, if you don't need a solo piece...

Or how about the third movement of Beethoven's 29th piano sonata ("Hammerklavier")? It's basically in F sharp minor. Most of it is with three sharps. It's not exactly easy, though I don't know anything about the grade system you mention...

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#416648 - 10/13/06 08:14 AM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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That 3rd movement is probably one of the hardest slow movements you could choose.....

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#416649 - 10/13/06 08:30 AM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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The Song Without Words, Op 30 No 6 by Mendelssohn ("Venetianisches Gondellied") is at about the level you are looking for and is in F# minor.

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#416650 - 10/13/06 08:32 AM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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Antonius Hamus :
I did not think of anything as advanced as a concerto, but it is a wonderful suggestion. The slow part of the Amajor(?)concert nr 23 is maybe the most beautiful piano music I have ever heard.
(Allthough it really depends on who's playing it....)
I have just never seen the sheet music and did not think of it as an F#minor piece.

(The grade system I have learned at the Adult Beginners Forum \:\) http://www.pianostreet.com/Graded_Pieces_All.xls )

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#416651 - 10/13/06 08:42 AM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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Ok then, I'll go for the "Gondollied" .....I even have a book with all "Lieder ohne Worte".

Playing a part of a Mozart Concert was just a very beatuful daydream........... :3hearts:


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#416652 - 10/13/06 09:17 AM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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Are you up to the Molto agitato chromaticism of Chopin's Prelude no. 8 opus 28?

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#416653 - 10/13/06 09:26 AM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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Why not use Bach's Well Tempered Clavier. There you'll get a choice of 2 preludes and 2 fugues in F# minor
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#416654 - 10/13/06 09:43 AM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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btb:
No, i am not at all up to the Molto Agitato (Op 28 no 8), I have printed it and i just can not figure how to put RH and LH together. Also "molto agitato" is not a tempo, what is the corrrect tempo ? Maybe i can say when i get a recording of it.

(But op 28 no 7 (A major) is also on the 1. page, I could warm up with this ;\) )

Bach is always a good suggestion....

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#416655 - 10/13/06 10:06 AM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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One of rachmaninoff's three nocturnes is in F# minor. I think its the first one. Its very beautiful, and I dont think its very difficult. Its probably a bit higher than grade 7, but not by much.

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#416656 - 10/13/06 10:22 AM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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maybe I am to pragmatic:

A. Löschhorn: Study, Op. 136, No 1.

Good for the technique, nice melodic line, good as a show off piece
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#416657 - 10/13/06 10:30 AM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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Also on a level of difficulty beyond what you are looking for are the Rachmaninoff Prelude in F# minor, Op 23, No 1, the Brahms Capriccio, Op 76, No 1 and the Chopin Nocturne, Op 48, No 2.

However, slightly easier pieces are the following :
  • Chopin : Mazurka, Op 6, No 1; Mazurka, Op 59, No 3
  • Grieg : Lyric Pieces Op 12, No 5 "Volksweise"
  • MacDowell : Will o' the Wisp, Op 51, No 2 (from Woodland Sketches); In Autumn, Op 51, No 4 (from Woodland Sketches); A Deserted Farm, Op 51, No 8 (from Woodland Sketches); Shadow Dance, Op 39, No 8 (from Twelve Etudes, Op 39)



Looking at the scores, Will o' the Wisp and the Shadow Dance might be a little bit more difficult than what you're looking for, but that leaves another few MacDowell as well as the Chopin Mazurkas and the Grieg.

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#416658 - 10/13/06 10:37 AM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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Schubert Sonata 959, 2nd movement.

I recently submitted this to another thread asking for the saddest music I knew. And this is the saddest music I know.

The beginning and ending of this are easy in that they are readily playable. The middle section looks extremely difficult, as there are thousands of small black dots splattered all over the music, but it's not quite as tough as it would appear once you get into it.

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#416659 - 10/13/06 11:39 AM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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I'm surprised nobody mentioned Scriabin-- wasn't f# minor his favorite key??

There's a ton of pieces of varying lengths and difficulties to choose from.
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#416660 - 10/13/06 12:02 PM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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Chopin - Polonaise F# minor.

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#416661 - 10/13/06 12:46 PM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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Rachmaninov's Op. 23 No. 1 Prelude, Its slow and I think you would be able to play it with a little extra practice and dedication, it sounds very mysterious and its in the manner of chopin to a degree, but not by much its still his own.


F# minor is not that difficult, its relative of A major, with the E# accidental, although I found it to be the toughest scale to learn back in the day, anyway, best of luck to you regardless.
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#416662 - 10/13/06 02:04 PM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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As you have got the Mendelssohn Songs Without Words, look for a later one in f# minor. It's quite hard - all staccato triplet semiquavers and, for the most part, three contrapuntal voices - but it's a terrific little piece, I would really recommend it.


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#416663 - 10/13/06 02:33 PM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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How about Brahms second piano sonata (Op.2) - its in F sharp minor, I haven't got the score to hand so cannot specifically recommend which movements are actually in that key.
Hope this helps
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#416664 - 10/13/06 03:04 PM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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Piano is a wonderful thing, there is just so much music to choose from, a lifetime is for sure too short \:D

Thank you so much all of you, I wish I could play some of the more advanced suggestions, maybe if I go on working hard..

I really want to take a look at the Rachmaninov Prelude since it was metioned twice, and Rachmaniov is just great. Could be a 10 year project..

Bruce D :
The Grieg folk tune has been my F# minor piece up till now, I am looking for something a little more advanced. Mac Dowell has some beautiful pieces I would like to try.

drumour: I had the great pleasure to hear Andsnes play this F# minor Lied Ohne Worte in our local Church a year ago \:\) but it is not easy !

Also btb's Chopin Prelude 28,8 is something to work on hoping to get one step further...

And now I will reveal my stupidity (or rather my need for a teacher) :

What is the correct fingerig for the F# minor scale RH and LH ?

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#416665 - 10/13/06 03:40 PM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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Harmonic:

RH 3 4 1 2 3 1 2 3
LH 4 3 2 1 3 2 1 4

others may suggest different start and finish, but this is basic pattern which should be practised on the whole scale for consistency.

Melodic:

RH 2 3 1 2 3 4 1 2 (except last f# which starts descent as) 3 2 1 3 2 1 4 3
LH 4 3 2 1 3 2 1 4 descending as 4(?) 1 2 3 1 2 3 4


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#416666 - 10/13/06 06:06 PM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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chopin's f#m polonaise is my favorite piece in the key, but probably pretty damn hard
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#416667 - 10/13/06 06:52 PM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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duh,,, bach f# min book 2 (wtc) My absolute favorite! Triple fugue? amazing prelude? Perfect!
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#416668 - 10/13/06 09:05 PM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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Originally posted by terminaldegree:
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Scriabin-- wasn't f# minor his favorite key??

There's a ton of pieces of varying lengths and difficulties to choose from. [/b]
Yeah me too, I was scrolling down like come one people, I'm glad you brought it up though \:D


And Scriabin's 3rd sonata, one of my favorite pieces ever, is an amazing f-sharp piece.
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#416669 - 10/14/06 12:32 PM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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WTC book 2, fugue in F# minor, nothing else I can think of, simply wonderful
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#416670 - 10/14/06 02:23 PM Re: Can you recommend an F# minor piano-piece ?
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Good choice my friend, good choice
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