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#416196 - 01/20/02 11:15 PM Schumann Fantasy  
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I bought the music to this today. Has anyone ever heard it or played it?


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#416197 - 01/20/02 11:43 PM Re: Schumann Fantasy  
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Yes, I've heard it, no I haven't played it. The C Major Fantasy is a great work, and it also happens to be quite demanding on the pianist (I suppose the listener as well!). I love Schumann's music! I also have his autograph laugh

#416198 - 01/21/02 09:48 AM Re: Schumann Fantasy  
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I recitaled it many years ago. It's been soooo long that I don't even remember the other pieces in the program. This is a super demanding piece, both musically and technically. Some accomplished pianist here does not care for this major composition of Schumann...

I still do remember that killer coda with break-neck speed doing big skips with pinkies of both hands. I spent weeks, if not months just to polish it up for recital.

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#416199 - 01/21/02 10:31 AM Re: Schumann Fantasy  
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Some accomplished pianist here does not care for this major composition of Schumann...


laugh

I've actually been rethinking it lately and listening to it more. I think that I originally disliked it because lots of people at school tend to botch it up. Do you have any suggestions as for as recordings go?

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#416200 - 01/21/02 11:44 AM Re: Schumann Fantasy  
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howoritz!!!


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#416201 - 01/21/02 12:08 PM Re: Schumann Fantasy  
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So it is quite difficult technically after all.

I like the Schumann Fantasy, especially the first movement. However, I think I like the Schubert Wanderer Fantasy a bit more.

As for a recording, I have one that I'm happy with. Maurizio Pollini on Deutsche Grammophon. This recording has both the Wanderer Fantasy and Schumann's C major Fantasy.

#416202 - 01/21/02 12:54 PM Re: Schumann Fantasy  
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Brendan,

That was my problem with Schumann's Fantasy when I was in school, I heard bad performances which turned me off on the work. Same with Kriesleriana.

Richter (which can be found on the Great Pianists of the 20th Century) coaxes a lot out of it, although he takes some of it a bit too slowly for my tastes, but it is still a recording I enjoy. Who have you been listening to?

Ryan

#416203 - 01/21/02 02:06 PM Re: Schumann Fantasy  
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I've heard Pollini, which I think is distant even for his style of playing. Kind of the same issue with Murray Periah, although there is a little bit more warmth and involvement.

My roommate has a recording of Kissin doing it and says that it is wonderful, so I'll give that one a shot.

#416204 - 01/21/02 02:54 PM Re: Schumann Fantasy  
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Richter is the opposite of distant - I think it comes off as a very personal recording. Might be worth checking to see if the library has it. I can't remember if I have heard Kissin, although I would expect it to be a scintilating, straight-up performance. I would be interested to hear your thoughts about it.

Ryan

#416205 - 01/21/02 06:41 PM Re: Schumann Fantasy  
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i never cared for the schumann fantasy much either, but horowitz's recording has made me like it very much...can anyone dispute his greatness?


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#416206 - 01/21/02 08:01 PM Re: Schumann Fantasy  
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I never cared for Horowitz's mannerism and idiosyncrasies. His Schumann Fantasy recorded when he came out of a long silence in 1965, however, is more than exemplary. That indeed is an outstanding reading...

AndrewG

#416207 - 01/22/02 01:49 PM Re: Schumann Fantasy  
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My favorite recording is Horowitz', despite a few small mistakes here & there. He really got to the heart of this music, and this performance is more direct than some of his other Schumann playing (like that God-awful Kinderszenen from 1982).

I have Pollini's recording, and while it is technically unsurpassable, I find it curiously uninvolving. Kempff's performance is disappointing, too. Kissin's performance is convincing, and comes coupled with some stunning Liszt Trancendental Etudes.

But, I'll always love the Horowitz!


Hank Drake

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#416208 - 01/22/02 02:34 PM Re: Schumann Fantasy  
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I don't know why I didn't think of the Horowitz recording. He does a few things I don't like, but overall it is a very moving performance.

Looks like I will have to pick up the Kissin recording.

Ryan


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